Was knocked cold last rd at bell got a ND.?

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  1. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was a champion.In one fight I was knocked cold with my head in the resin box, but was given a ND verdict by the judges...Who was I ?
     
  2. Meast

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    Damn I read this just yesterday and can't remember for the life in my who it was!
     
  3. Meast

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    Philadelphia Jack O'Brien when he lost to Stanley Ketchell!
     
  4. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right you are Meast...Ketchel caught up with the elusive O'brien with ten seconds left flattened O'Brien ,who's head fell in a resin box..The fight
    was called a ND...
     
  5. red cobra

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    Impressive!!! You beat me to it!!
     
  6. Meast

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    I see Ketchel didn't make the same mistake of waiting too long in their rematch!
     
  7. burt bienstock

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    Ketchel was a killer...It was said many years ago that for those who had seen the "michigan Assassin ",he was the "only one "..He must have been
    something to have left such an impression on those who had seen him !
     
  8. Senya13

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    4 seconds left and no resin box mentioned in next-day reports. Judges didn't give a ND decision, as there were no judges in the first place.
     
  9. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is an old question, as I answered this when I was a teenager, and that was back in the 1960's.

    O’Brien got to his feet and slumped down on his stool. For all his pain and woe, he was still ahead and now just one round away from adding the scalp of the great Stanley Ketchell to his belt. Just one round. Like a collapsing marathon runner who can see the tape but cannot grind out the last inches, Philadelphia Jack fell short of his target in the most dramatic fashion imaginable. A big body attack by Ketchell in the tenth culminated in a final shot that sent O’Brien down. Philadelphia Jack’s head came to rest in the resin box that his handlers had forgotten to clear from the ring at the end of the previous round, knocking him unconscious. Referee Tim Hurst’s count had reached four when the bell sounded.

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=6122&more=1
     
  10. Senya13

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    I've seen 5 local papers, together with the AP and UP reports, none mention a resin box. After the bell O'Brien was carried to his corner by his seconds. Casey, as usual, probably used some write-up printed long time after the bout had taken place. Oh, and Casey confused the second fight in Philadelphia with the first fight in NY. The NY bout ending in ND10 was on March 26, 1909, and not
     
  11. TheGreatA

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  12. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Senya, this historic fight occured at the old Fiss,Doerr, and Carrol Horse
    market on E 24th st,NYC. It was a 7 story bldg, for horse trading...It is
    now destroyed and part of Baruch College complex...Many years ago, i would walk past this site, before Baruch College, stop and try to visualize
    that epic battle march 26,1909, between the great Stanley Kethel and
    Phil Jack O'Brien, so long ago ! Eery feeling for me !!!
     
  13. Senya13

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    I'm having an eerie feeling when I don't even have to visualize, watching old film (not boxing-related), like the Butterfly dances, or Muybridge series photography. Watching Fitz-Corbett filmed around the same time doesn't quite give the same feeling. Also, when I'm looking at old photographs, not necessarily people, but buildings too, dating back to the middle of 19th century...