Was Lennox the last all-time great HW champion?

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  1. Gabriel Syme

    Gabriel Syme Member Full Member

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    I think so. This is the longest drought in boxing history without a single ATG HW.
    None of the current three claiming to be the real champ would've scratched greatness in any other era.
    How long will we have to wait for another great HW? Is there anyone on the horizon? It's been 16 years.
     
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  2. expljose

    expljose Active Member Full Member

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    you could just completely ignore all of the klitschko brothers work I mean why not over 10 years of dominance .. handled what was out there .. I mean I don't think it's fair to do so
     
  3. destruction

    destruction Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So a 10 year undefeated undisputed HW champion who beats all challengers, isnt an ATG?

    Keep on taking the pills son.
     
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  4. Gabriel Syme

    Gabriel Syme Member Full Member

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    Once there was no one any better than Corrie Sanders and Lamont Brewster to fight, Wlad dominated. That's true.
    And that's my point. The HW division has been atrocious for a long time.
     
  5. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Member Full Member

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    Come on man I know guys wasn’t fans of Wlad fights but you can’t ignore his dominance of all comers for a legit decade..
     
  6. destruction

    destruction Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The HW division hasnt been atrocious for a long time. The issue is that the US HW scene has collapsed and the US is no longer the number 1 in HW boxing. Boxing has slipped a lot in the USA, and a lot of American fans are using this write off the division. The whole world doesnt revolve around the US. The British and Eastern Europeans have taken over, and many US boxing fans are sore over that.

    In terms of Wlad, you have brought up 2 losses that happened before his 10 year undefeated reign as champion. To be clear, the majority of great HW champions have atleast 3 losses and many have 5 or 6. Wlad with his 5 losses is average in this respect.

    During Wlad's reign he beat EVERY single top challenger. He BEAT 5 undefeated top 10 challengers. He BEAT the undisputed CW champion coming up. His resume is absolutely stacked with the best HWs over a 10 year period, in 19 consecutive wins. No one, not even haters like you can point to one single fighter he actually ducked. Wheras with other top champions of other divisions there are numerous examples of fighters that they ducked.
     
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  7. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    By beating who? David Haye? Bryd? Wlad was dominating the heavyweight division in a weak resumes especially if David haye was wlad best win lol.
     
  8. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    He beat most fighters that weren't really very good. David Haye was wlad best win. A prime focused Lewis would've easily beat David Haye.
     
  9. destruction

    destruction Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He beat most fighters that weren't really very good
    That is a subjective opinion based on nothing. He beat 19 top contenders, 5 of them undefeated. His choice of opponent was stronger than many previous HW champions. It was no bum of the month club

    David Haye was wlad best win
    Undefeated Povetkin or undefeated Pulev were better wins than a win against Haye, whose best win at HW was Chisora. By the way he absolutely shut Haye out, which is surprising considering according to you he is trash.

    A prime focused Lewis would've easily beat David Haye
    Wlad easily beat Haye. Not sure what the f... Lewis has to do with this.
     
  10. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Lost all my bets booted Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis has a resume just as awful as Wlad. Old ass Holyfield, shot Tyson, green Vitaly, then who? Morrison :roflmao:
    Tua :roflmao:
    He even ducked Byrd. How can a man duck Chris Byrd and call himself an ATG. Lenny was running scared of southpaws

    At least Wlad fought Byrd
     
  11. Kyrie

    Kyrie New Member Full Member

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    Wlad was not undisputed for 10 years, it's so revisionist to pretend Wlad was thought of as the best HW in 2004/5. He was stopped in both 2003 and 2004, it was a long time before people had faith in Wlad and he was only really undisputed when Vitali retired in 2012 until he lost in 2015 because Vitali returned just when Wlad started unifying. Wlad and Vitali are definite ATG's and were the best of their generation whether you think it was weak or not but i think people like to forget that they lost several times and as a result people were always rightfully skeptical.
     
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  12. Kyrie

    Kyrie New Member Full Member

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    Vitali was green at 31 and after 33 fights? LMAO. People need to get their story straight on what was wrong with Vitali that fight.
     
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    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  14. Gabriel Syme

    Gabriel Syme Member Full Member

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    Nationalism never crossed my mind, but since you brought it up. It's closer to the truth to say the Euros are sore b/c the HW division so clearly and desperately needs Americans to be decent, much less great.
    I never said Wlad and/Vitaly were not the best of their era. I said their era was weak. I'm saying their era and the current one are the weakest in the division's history. There have been and are no ATGs from either of them.
     
  15. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's obviously trying to knock the Klitschko's, who were quite obviously the last atg's
     
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