was Leonard the favorite when he fought Terry Norris???

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  1. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why would he have to become a mandatory for thier belts, he was ranked higher by ring magazine.

    Why is that he should of fought Chavez? He was a bigger star than chavez at that point by a wide margin, Chavez never bothered to chase him anytime between 1985-1989. Stop trying to sway ****, Chavez was not the bigger star from the media prespective until he fought Taylor.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    :lol:

    His statement mirrors Wiki's (where he likely got it :lol: ) perfectly, but Wiki contradicts itself elsewhere on the matter anyways :lol:

    Given Brambles brilliant performance against the talented and elusive Crawley one can really believe he was afraid of the light hitting Camacho :roll:

    Many experts thought Bramble was the best 135 in the world after the Crawley fight, and were openly tipping him vs Camacho. Given Bramble was high on confidence and Camacho had no big guns it would have been a very very interesting bout. There's a small chance it may have been over 15 too. Bramble would have been a damn awkward fight for Camacho at his finest.
     
  3. JohnThomas1

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    That's pretty arguable, Camacho's star had waned considerably way before Chavez beat Taylor. Wouldn't put me life on it i tell ya.
     
  4. brownpimp88

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    Maybe around 1988 when Camacho started to become inactive, but from 84-87 he was an hbo golden boy while chavez was only known by mexicans.

    I still find it funny that Chavez never even mentioned Hector's name until he saw him struggle with Haugen. For 6 straight years, both were undefeated and within 1 division of each other and Chavez never called him out, quite funny if you ask me.

    I also find it funny that Chacon vacates his belt to avoid macho, which is the reason limon and camacho fought. Then decides to take on Mancini and get soundly thrashed.

    Camacho would have always dealt with the Chacon's of the world and Bobby knew it.
     
  5. Longhhorn71

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    Leoanard said after after the Norris fight he thought he was
    fighting a younger version of himself.
     
  6. JohnThomas1

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    Still waiting for the Paul, Camacho, Bramble proof Pimp.
     
  7. brownpimp88

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    He called them out after the Ramirez fight, all of them. They never stepped up to the plate dawg. He was considered the p4p fighter and they didnt want him.

    Not sure about his exact quote but he said he wants pryor, bramble, jimmy paul, larry holmes and all thos ******s. He also said he whitaker would get his.

    What was he supposed to do, call out bramble and jimmy paul individually and trash them fro no reason, he made the open invitiation and they didn't accept the offer.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    You stated the Taylor fight as your cut off, which was 1990 not 1988. And it was late 87 when Chavez dominated Rosario to universal praise, so you are slightly out there as well, again. Really tho even before that he had beaten the likes of Mayweather, Lockridge and LaPorte all in the USA. Tho i don't live there to confirm, i find it very very hard to believe he was "only known by Mexicans", that's for sure. Your facts are about as tight as Paris Hilton in this thread.
     
  9. brownpimp88

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    He didnt become JC Superstar until he beat Taylor though, thats when he had leverage his way. Camacho was undefeated for 6 consecutive years prior to the Haugen fight and Chavez never ever mentioned his name.
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    Ok, so Holmes ducked him too then considering he didn't take him on? Camacho, after having his world rocked by Rosario said he would never fight him again even if the sanctioning body said to dawg.

    If you have the vast array of mags from the era you claim and actually read them you would know Bramble - Camacho was slated for after the Rosario - Bramble fight. This fight was considered Bramble's "tune up" for Camacho :lol:

    Funny thing Macho didn't then fight Rosario, hey? ;)

    Wrong, wrong, wrong.
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    So now you claim Chavez didn't "mention" Camacho in that full 6 years? That's yet another enormous claim that one.
     
  12. sweet_scientist

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    You know what, I would have loved to have seen Hector Camacho against the likes of Roger Mayweather and Freddie Pendleton too. I think they, along with Bramble could have all taken it to Camacho and I would not be certain as to Camacho coming out on top in all three of those fights, especially given his performances against Rosario and even against Boza Edwards, where he seemed to be rather intimidated by Boza's pressure. Boza simply didn't have the handspeed to catch Camacho often enough, but he still won 3 or 4 rounds imo in that one. Bramble, Mayweather and Pendleton all had better speed and I think the chin checks they would have provided Hector could have been telling.
     
  13. brownpimp88

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    Ok, the Larry Holmes part was obviously a joke.

    Funny how you dont mention Chacon, maybe cuz its true after all.
     
  14. brownpimp88

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    What are you claiming, that Hector has a glass jaw now. Anyone with some sort of power will make him run on his bike? You talk alot of **** about hector, the funny thing is if you met him in real life, you would probably shake his hands, ask for his atuograph and annoy him to death.
     
  15. redrooster

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    Give it up already. Rosario lost. He won a couple rounds big but it wasn't enough to make up for all the other rounds he lost. Likewise he lost to Howard Davis but because he won the last round with a knockdown in the last ten seconds and they were in Puerto Rico, the judges gave him the fight. Before that he was outsped by Howard.

    I will attest to the legitmacy Brownpimp's claims. Most everyone including Chavez avoided Hector in the mid 80's when it was clearly Macho time. Chavez had a lot of time to take his head out of the sand and go for the gold. Instead he went for the bronze taking the path of least resistance. Same goes for the glass jawed Mayweather and over the hill Bobby Chacon. Even if Bobby were in his prime he'd still lose. Arroyo, don't make me laugh. Jimmy Paul I liked personally but I don't think he would have made it.

    None of these fighters were cut out for a prime time fight with Hector. He was nearly untouchable and a lefthander on top of that.