Was Liam Wilson robbed?

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  1. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    No. He did not. The wasted seconds were due to 1) picking up the spat out mouthpiece and putting it back in Navarrete's mouth and 2) Navarrete complaining about the mouthpiece being upside down. There was absolutely no wrongdoing intentional or otherwise on the part of the ref.

    You could argue that Navarrete could have been deducted a point for deliberately spitting out the mouthpiece but only the boxer knows if it was delibrate.
     
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  2. smoking mirrors

    smoking mirrors Active Member Full Member

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    the long count is a smokescreen for the real shady business…the weigh in
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd argue it doesn't matter whether it was intentional or not. The spitting out of the mouthpiece denied a man who had scored a fair knockdown of the chance to finish off his still hurt opponent. He put him on the canvas. He should have had a fair chance to close the deal right then and there.
     
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  4. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So what’s the solution?
     
  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Deduct a point from Navarette for spitting out his mouthpiece. I give absolutely zero ****s whether or not it was intentional.
     
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  6. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rematch and both promising no spitting of mouth piece in any round. But ah Navarette seriously needs to train fo this fight. He looked out of shape? Wtf, he thought it would be easy fight or something. Come on now!!
     
  7. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So Diego Corrales should have been disqualified?
     
  8. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you have none. Ok.
     
  9. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think we all know nothing will come of it.
    At worst the ref will be "counselled" and may be kept away from high profile fights for a couple of months.

    Difference here is that Weeks took control of the situation and rushed Corrales back to corner to get another mouth piece in. He then correctly took a point off Diego for the next infraction, which probably wasn't the appropriate course of action in this instance as it was a first offence.
    The first period of time was significantly less than the 27 secs Navarrete got but the 2nd infringement was about the same if not more.

    I can't really think of any specific rule Flores has "broken" except perhaps he didn't follow ABC guidelines with how a ref should handle the situation because apparent inaction that advantaged Navarrete. The count seemed slow and he fluffed around afterwards but the count is what the ref deems not what a stopwatch says exactly.
    He probably should have called time, which i don't believe he did, whilst the mouthpiece was going back in, that bought Nav some precious seconds.

    I'm not going to pretend I haven't personally witness Australian fighters get similar treatment when they are fighting at home.
     
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  10. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    If No Limit can get the rematch in Queensland Nava will be in strife
     
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  11. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You need to watch it again. https://youtu.be/55lh38QH74E
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    iego got 23 seconds after the first spit out. Then he got 32 seconds after the second spit out.
     
  12. rinsj

    rinsj Active Member Full Member

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    Although it was only after spitting his mouthpiece out twice, Diego was deducted a point for it.
     
  13. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And if Nava had a point deducted immediately, people would say that was part of the rigging to give him even more time. So again, what is the solution?
     
  14. rinsj

    rinsj Active Member Full Member

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    Spitting out the mouthpiece is not the same as having it knocked out. Deduct a point for spitting it out.
     
  15. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Corrales spit his piece out twice.