Was Marciano a one punch KO artist.

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I don't see it. Plenty of guys stood within his punching range, often with their hands fairly low. If anything, his problem was that he didn't have the accuracy, reflexes, or speed to land on some of them precisely and consistently.
     
  2. mcvey

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    The idea that he deliberately targeted opponents arms is pure BS. What he had was unprecedented condition , super self belief ,and fantastic determination.
     
  3. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which is the point I and others keep on bringing up. It's not that Rocky didn't possess one shot KO power, he most certainly did. It's more the fact that he wasn't as good at timing him shots, telegraphed his shots (which can help the receiver take them much better) and it wasn't with the speed of others. As I've said, speed and timing is very important when it comes to scoring these rare one shot KO's. That wasn't Rocky's strength, but to say he didn't have one shot KO power is being disingenuous imo
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I disagree actually, I think Rocky had expert timing, but the speed meant it couldn't always get there first.

    His power is the reason his relentless pressure always paid off because men his size could not live with his power.

    His accuracy was sometimes lacking and his speed was almost always second best but he could anticipate openings and even in the final rounds his power was still telling.
     
  5. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay, but again, as I mention his speed wasn't the best and neither was his accuracy. Thus, it wasn't that his power was lacking to be a "one shot KO Artist" (whatever that means), but it was his speed and accuracy. You disagree on timing, and that is fine, but my point is that Rocky has that kind of power. Certainly when you consider his size as well. Which is something I factor in, well, because that was his size.. why wouldn't one factor that in. Plus like I said, he telegraphed a lot of his shots, and thus people were able to take them better.
     
  6. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :goodThis is the way I see it,

    Marciano could take you out with a shot but if he didn't get the Sunday punch on the chin, he would pound your arms elbows,neck etc. so he could do it both ways
     
  7. mcvey

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    He is famous for pounding on Lastarza's arms but he didn't take him out, Roland finished the fight on his feet in both fights .
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    I think it's wrong to dismiss the toughness and durability of some of his opponents by doubting Marciano's power, which is what some people are doing.
    He hit hard, really hard. Lots of fighters do. Anyone middleweight and up especially can really f--k a man up. Marciano put his whole body into some of those shots, he didn't pitty pat around.
    Guys who went 9 or 10 rounds or more with him, absorbing punishment, were basically really tough men, determined men. Marciano wasn't big and he had apparent technical weaknesses, so a lot of these men really fancied their chances with him, and all it got them was a beating.
    We don't know what damage they suffered in the aftermath or in later years.
    So credit where it's due.
     
  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Well said.

    Golovkin, a 160lb fighter, spars with heavyweights, and beats them. Supposedly he goes through cruisers like a knife through butter.

    ATG punchers are no joke.
     
  10. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The hyperbole on Golovkin continues to grow daily
     
  11. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Sparring partner says Glolovkin punches harder than heavyweights:
    https://youtu.be/-ck3tIwd01o?t=1m18s


    Another sparring partner says he hits as hard as the heavyweights:
    https://youtu.be/Bz5SltQixSQ?t=36s


    Another cruiserweight sparring partner:
    https://youtu.be/u93IBcEq6cA?t=28s

    "I spar heavyweights, and take their punches for me, nothing. But Golovkin, every punch, I feel every punch, he's a very strong guy."




    What hyperbole?

    160 pounder is punching as hard as heavyweight boxers. That's reality.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    He never finished the second fight mate.
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    :good
     
  14. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In case you didn't know this already, a few opinions of others don't make things factual true across the board. Do I really need to explain why that would be? Do we know who these guys have actually been punched by and where these punches landed? How many of them have they faced to be able to give such an opinion? 3 Random comments from scrub training partners means, well, squat.
     
  15. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Ah, you know better than them?

    And these are only 3 examples I quickly found. I could probably find many more.

    But, I suppose that wouldn't matter, as it seems you know something we don't! :good