Was Martinez not on Ped's for Murray fight?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bigdog2001, May 10, 2013.


  1. PivotPunch

    PivotPunch Guest

    But look if we believe what some say almost every elite athlete is doping anyway so why should right now anyone care about the age they start using something? If every athlete had to report the a commision what and how much they are using and they would get checked by a doctor every few months and they could use the stuff with the least side effects instead of the stuff that is the hardest to detect wouldn't it be safer for the athlete than the way it is now where most are probably using something but don't know/care about their health?
     
  2. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    I said before the fight he would be affected by his knee surgery and I was right.

    His style is reliant on his movement. At his age its hard to recover from injuries to the knees.
     
  3. bigdog2001

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    Your a tool, sometimes people still use peds but the body gets used to them and you have to cycle off. Also alot of alleged HGH from china is really HCG right now. So there has been and will be positives for hcg in sports for this reason. Athletes think they are shooting hgh but its hcg.*On the ped issue. It's hard to continue to build funcitional muscle without the aid of peds. Your are born with a set amount of muscle fibers, whether fast twitch or slow twitch, hgh causes hyperplasia and if you train that new muscle accordingly it becomes functional muscle. Floyd, Marquez, Martinez are on something i guarantee you this.
     
  4. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    Adult pro athletes can do what the **** they want as far as I care, what bothers me is kids and teenagers seeing that this is an accepted norm. Kids from the many dirt poor countries around the world being encouraged or even forced to use PEDs as a potential ticket out of grinding poverty for a whole family. You think they give a **** about commisions in dirt floor favela gyms? ****, needles are shared even in UK PED circles where they're easy to get hold of...

    Do you have kids? Would you like your kids or cousin or Kid brother to take up a sport, knowing they'll basically be expected to start banging up PEDs if they want to progress beyond a certain level.

    Listen I'm not talking so much about the successful pro-athletes (or lower level,Western athletes) who can afford to test what they're taking, access professional advice,healthcare and facilities,
    I'm talking about the aspirational kids and young adults around the world who admire and look up to them or the lifestyle.

    As I said before though I'm absolutely in favour of education, regulation and monitoring of PED use rather than criminalisation, (though perhaps criminalising procurement and supply) but condoning their use at the highest level is only going to encourage more, and more dangerous use.

    I think I said in another post that while monitoring the whole sport is impossible, EVERY title license should be issued of condition of mandatory (and frequent) random checking. That way even if you can get close to the top, it'd send the message that reaching the top on the back of PEDs ain't OK.

    Look, I take the point, and there's also a freedom of choice vs good of the whole issue, but to draw a parallel, a pop star could do as many drugs as he wants for all I care, but if he/she starts telling their teenage fans that the only way to be like them is to start digging heroin then I'd want them banging up. I think perhaps we're just looking at the issue from a different perspective, cos I also absolutely agree with the kind of harm reduction policies you suggest, just can't accept what amounts to an active endorsement of PEDs.