Was McCallum the Burley of his day?

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What do you say?
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pretty much took on his own murderers row, avoided by the biggest draws of the sport, at least he got title shots though, but the alphabet belts stopped him largely getting the massive fights. An ATG technician, intelligent, defensively solid, master boxer

    A seriously underrated resume and underrated great
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    McCallum was the very definition of a high risk/low reward fight. Too good for his own good. He was past it when he fought what he is most remembered for by the masses, his bouts against Toney. Way past it when v. Jones, Jr.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    **** no, McCallum managed a massive breakthrough and a huge payday against Curry. The most Burley earned for a fight was 3k, and he had to take on a HW to get that much.
     
  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, the title read "for his day". The treatment Burley got probably wasn't possible for a fighter in the 80-90's, but for the time McCallum was active...
     
  6. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No....... McCallum did get fights and win three titles at 154, 160 & 175 pounds, so he wasn't neglected......... Granted, Mike was bland and a hard sell to John Q. Public, but he made his mark and is in the IBHOF..........

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  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Which year, guessing its 1946, and accounting for inflation that is around 100k in todays money, not massive granted, but for the time not too shabby
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The inflation calculator makes it about $35k.
     
  9. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    He ducked Hagler.;)

    Burley tried his best to get the money fights, mccallum seemed to think the bigger draws should come to him for the most part.I have a lot of time for Mike purely as a fighter, but i've never liked, nor bought all his whining about being frozen out.It's overplayed.
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Depends which 1 you use and what it account for, we have a 300k house today that was bought for around 8k in the 1970s, if you base it on house prices then its worth a shed load more than the figure I quoted
     
  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not a valid comparison at all between McCallum and Burley. McCallum got his opportunities to fight for titles, whereas Burley did not..that's a very simple distinction I know, but a valid one. McCallum was just another highly respected and dangerous title holder of the 80's, while Burley was criminally deprived of a fair shot at any of the reigning champions of the time, and though that's a negative, it certainly contributed to the aura and mystique of Burley as a guy so good and so feared by the real badasses of his time that none of them were willing to risk their crowns and reputations against him. There's no way to adequately compare the underachieving McCallum, who failed to secure fights vs Leonard, Duran and Hearns for example, but STILL was a title holder with a guy like Burley, who was just cheated, IMO, of a chance to beat a champion. It was a travesty to have been so good, yet never to have had a chance to say, at the end of his career, "I was a champion".
     
  12. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Burley was also a title holder.
     
  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I'd say this entire post basically sums the whole story up in a nut shell. Mike McCallum may very well end up being one of the most forgotten and underappreciated all time greats ever..
     
  14. Tin_Ribs

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    But at least McCallum actually got cracks at several titles in numerous weight classes, even if he still argued that everyone was scared of him and that they were denying him the chance to put food on the table - an overstatement to say the least. Burley, in comparison, probably WAS denied the chance to put food on the table.

    McCallum is a deserved ATG; a fine, fine champion and a superlative technician who had everything but real speed in his arsenal and who defeated a long line of good opponents. But he gets his due, which is more than the likes of Holman Williams and Lloyd Marshall tend to get.

    I'm only hoping that your post wasn't sarcastic or anything such, cos if it was, I've just made a right **** of myself :oops:.....