so, the loss (due to drugs,drink and overall mental illness,including a botched suicide) negates his great achievement of the youngest ever? that's convoluted logic.
I've got one simple observation to make,if tyson was so overrated,why did the division die when he retired?
The way to beat Mike Tyson in his prime was to drive him back, put him on his back foot ATTACK him!!! 99% of Mike's opponents were beaten before a punch was thrown. He totally intimidated them. Though neither Lennox Lewis nor Buster Douglas fought a prime Tyson I know BUT Lennox always had Mikes number from the days with Cus D'mato & on that night in Tokyo NO ONE would have beaten Douglas. Shame he could never repeat that performance. Easy to say how to beat Mike Tyson but very hard to do
That part is true, but it doesn't say all that much about the opposition. Certainly fighters not scare of Tyson before the fight started like Holyfield, did much better. But then again others like Razor Ruddock ended up in a war.
Not even close. P4P Tyson's not anywhere near top 10 he's not even in the top 50. Heavyweight , 8-12 seems about right. H2H is complete speculation, I'd have him in my top 7-8 along with Ali, Holmes, Foreman, Liston, Lewis, Louis, and Bowe As to who would win that mythical contest, it's anybodies guess.
This is so true and a blemish on iron mike. But I have never seen a heavy weight like mike the aggression the speed the power and a mean mother shut your mouth.
Had Tyson been a bit more professional he could have been the best ever. He will now have to settle for top 10 when he could have been no 1, you get full marks for actual results not potential.
This is a very good point. If you watch Tysons comeback against Botha, you notice his hand and foot speed had completely deserted him, he couldn't even put 2-3 punches together and had literally become a one punch at a time puncher. He stopped the combinations, attacking the body and just kept aiming for the one shot too the head and had become extremely predictable, one dimensional. The things that made him so effective, his short height and his natural speed, once they deserted him worked against him when he turned 32 onwards. He damaged his legacy with the humiliation he suffered at the hands of Lewis and should have retired a while ago.
Holyfield too had an awesome chin. I back him to take those shots as well. Tyson was just pathetic in the Lewis fight. Who allowed him to fight the best boxer in the world at that time in such a pathetic unfit condition?
to be fair, he needed to be a lot more professional, but yeah the problem was in his head, he had all the physical tools in vast excess.
When Cus died, so did the best parts of Mike Tyson from a boxing standpoint and that of a person. I think had he not passed, the early 90s would have been much better for Mike in boxing and his personal life.
Overrated in the sense that contrary to what many will have you believe he wasn't an unbeatable monster, which of course is a ludicrous thing to say about a non-gypsy fighter. But he's underrated by some now in the sense that he wasn't a H2H nightmare and savage punching force of nature monster in his prime. He was and prime Mike would wreck Bum Squad, Ruiz and AJ in a couple of rounds a piece (granted so would prime Wlad (if he wanted to), Lewis etc. The Gypsy King is the only top dog out of the current crop who would cause him serious problems but even he'd have to be at the absolute top of his game to do so.