Was or is John "The Quiet Man" Ruiz featherfisted?

John "The Holding, headbutting, no-punch throwing Man" Ruiz had pop, but preferred to jab and hold for 12 rounds rather than ever fight.

I am still of the opinion that Ruiz' best fight was with David Tua. It had the most action of all of his career put together.

 

Oh, please. Ruiz is rated right where he belongs, at the bottom. He was a regional fighter at best, until King got ahold of him, got him ranked, and got favorable treatment from officials for his ILLEGAL tactics. Without King, Ruiz is lucky to win the New England regional championship, let alone some paper "world" title!!

Oh, and let's not forget his shameful ham-acting to force bogus "low blow" calls in several fights. Now that's REALLY disgraceful!

As far as his power? Well, consider that even though King was greasing the wheels for him, he only scored ONE stoppage over anyone even at the fringe contender level, Fres Oquendo. I think the ref stopped it to save the fans from having to watch all the excessive holding!!

 

well he knocked down evander holyfield, so there must be some power there...

 

I also believe in the weight and muscle lost. RJJ's speed was key and alot of the punches rolled off of his defence. It has been a long time since I saw the fight. Glass jaw; no....Featherfisted; no.

 

He knocked down your private ***** Holyfield. Explain that

 

Explain that? That's why he hates him with all his heart. Just like he hates Lennox Lewis because he twice beat his hero Holyfield.



Roy Jones during his prime had an excellent jaw. Took flush shots from Hopkins, Toney, Ruiz (a legit 225lbs hw) and a truckload of LHW's who usually weighed around 190lbs come fight night.

It was only AFTER he lost 15lbs of muscle that Jones deteriorated badly.

I mean look at Chris Byrd. He was taking punches from the likes of Tua, Klitscko's and Ibeabuchi, and they still needed a lot of rounds to finish him. Then, like Jones, he loses a lot of muscle at age 35+ to go down to LHW..... and his durability is down the drain, he gets knocked down and later stopped by a light-hitting LHW journeyman. That's no coincidence; the same thing happened to good old Roy.

 

I recall Jones saying that Ruiz had alot more power than he was given credit for.

Of course, he said this to make himself look good for taking the Ruiz shots, and going on to beat him.

 

Ruiz has average or below average power I think for a champ. Above average? I never felt that was the case at all. He is a guy who should not have been a champion, and the only reason he was is because of the fragmentation of the titles.

 

Ruiz had KO Power but it wasn't great, it was above average in terms of overall weight classes, I should've been a little more specific, but compared to a volume puncher, it was slightly higher than that, which is why I said above average.

 

Mediocre AT BEST

He has never stopped anyone that's even decent. Aside from a perfectly placed temple shot on Holyfield he hasn't even hurt anyone with a good chin

 

I was just about to use the Chris Byrd example. Byrd had a proven Chin, Tua, Vitali, Wlad, Ibeabuchi and to some extent Jameel McCline a 270lb fighter who batter him around but couldnt finish him off. Then he loses the muscle and he can't handle a light punching LHW.

Jones always had a decent jaw. I think it was an above average chin.

Ruiz's power was always decent. He definately wasnt feather fisted.

 

he doesn't sell PPV's...it's the audience that is put to sleep not his opponents..but i must admit, he put a dagger on holyfield claim sa top 10 HW of all-time