Was Oscar dela hoya boxing's biggest gatekeeper

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  1. Jay1990

    Jay1990 Active Member Full Member

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    Just curious because it seemed like everybody who beat him catapulted into superstardom/ppv star after defeating him...
    I.e
    Trinidad
    Mosley
    Hopkins
    Mayweather
    Pacquiao
     
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  2. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Olympic champion, top 5 P4P fighter in the world at his very best, 5/6 weight world champion (not sure if he ever captured one at light heavyweight of the top of my head) Does that sound like a gatekeeper to you?
     
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  3. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I think the OP means Gate as in $.
     
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  4. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    nah he was never a gatekeeper. especially when you're talking about the hopkins fight. you can't really think oscar was a mw gatekeeper? he's one of the bigger showman for sure though. those were all big money spectacles.

    Trinidad: big money big spectacle. i still think he beat trinidad though it's his own fault for running to the point that the judges could take it from him).

    Hopkins: big money big spectacle. hell he pretty much got beat by sturm in the previous tune up fight i always saw that outcome as a foregone conclusion. the most impressive thing about that to me was hopkins coming in under oscar's weight.

    Pac: big money big spectacle. probably had no business being in the ring even freddie roach said he could see the IV track marks on his arms in the ring and knew then it would be a blow out.

    SSM: wash, rinse, repeat. first fight huge spectacle one of my favorite fights.

    Floyd: yes more of the same.

    Oscar is/was a great showman who can put asses in seats. Gatekeepers don't put on "fights of the century" and don't put asses in seats. Just my two cents.
     
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  5. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    MW strongman Mustafo Hamsho. He challenged Hagler twice for the title. Virtually cleaned out the division and Bobby Cyz and Wilfred Benitez made the mistake of trying to use Hamsho as a stepping stone and were severely bashed by Hamsho.
     
  6. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    DLH was indeed known as the cashcow of boxing. From the ladies who loved him, and an olympic champ, he was indeed the man to beat.

    Pre Oscar, Floyd was never a PPV, but afterwards.
    Not sure about Pac, I think his style was destined to be loved, DLH just solidied it?
    I remember one fight, RJJ had the nerve to call out DLH! Know what that was about$

    I didn't really notice the gatekeeper, LOL I thougth it was gateseller! Hell yeah DLH was at one point boxing's biggest gate seller!
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    No, he never fought at light heavy and didn't capture a title at super middle, either... you were right about six divisions, though - he reached the mountaintop from super feather through middleweight.
     
  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Not sure I'd see him as a gate keeper but I see your meaning. I think it's just a case of him meeting a lot of top names as they were moving on to important bouts in there life. I'd see guys like chuvalo and wepner more as gate keeper s .You expected those to lose ,where as Oscar was more a favourite in some of those u mentioned.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That is a term with a specific contextual meaning in this sport but in a sense (in the more literal sense) the OP is correct about the role DLH played as launchpad for mega stars.
     
  10. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I meant light middleweight to be fair. He looked scary good at the lower weights. Him vs Mayweather at 130 would have been nuts had their careers corresponded. Both made mince meet of Genaro Hernandez and Artuo Gatti
     
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  11. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    i'm not an oscarsexual by any stretch but you really think his punching arsenal was limited to amateurish straights? you don't think he had a decent left hook?

    prime for prime he'd leave ricky hatton in a pile of himself.
     
  12. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bunch of really good fighters from 130 lbs -160 (a bridge too far)lbs....during ODH's career.

    In reality, ODH bootstrapped a lot of opponents up to greater $$$ levels.

    Even "fishnet" sales showed an unexpected peak in sales during that period.