Was Pavlik essentially done after winning the title ?

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  1. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    Yes, i remember them.
    They were already predicting he would have a lot of trouble staying top dog in the division, considering his lifestyle in Youngstown.

    I wasn't sure what they were implying, but now your post made if perfectly clear.
     
  2. TheGOAT

    TheGOAT The Champ is Here ! banned

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    :freddyWas done when he couldn't put down the booze bottle
     
  3. MarcusBrowne

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    Pavlik gave Martinez a very tough fight and adapted to his style well then lost on the cuts! Miranda probably dented his chin though.
     
  4. travolt

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    Actually, Pavlik ruined Miranda...
     
  5. dbouziane

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    lots of late night **** that was covered up pretty well which is crazy considering how hard it is to cover stuff up these days. There was a lot of speculation from the area that his staph (which was a true story) just wouldn't heal because the amount of booze he was running through is body didn't let the antibiotics do their job. also heard he was hit or miss (pun intended) at the bars. one minute he's buying rounds a taking pictures and later he's picking fights. sad really. i was an overly obnoxious pavlik poster back in the day and wish he would have stayed the course a bit better but its his life.
     
  6. travolt

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    There were many boxers whose career got ruined by booze and/or drugs.
    Valero 's story comes to mind.

    Saddly, nobody quite knows the formula for staying healthy while boxing ( nutritionnally speaking).

    Even everyday clean people ( no alcohol, no smoke) who don't need to cut weight for a title fight cannot stay healthy, even with the advice of the best doctors and the most expensive bio food/vitamins.
     
  7. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes ! Alcohol.. He should've never got schooled by a smaller MW like Sergio....
     
  8. Tancred

    Tancred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pavlik is overrated mostly by Americans and usually white ones , he beat in Taylor a pretty weak champion who is forever himself overrated as he beat Hopkins. Let's be truthful people Taylor beat Hopkins on his style that's it , pavlik beat Taylor purely on his ability to take a punch and keep going against a champion in Taylor who gases down the last half of the fight and has a habit sticking his chin in the air when he gets tired .
     
  9. Tancred

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  10. travolt

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    Pavlik was landing hard on Taylor as soon as the first rd, which he won.

    How much punishment he soaked in during the Miranda fight ?
    He was able to cleverly deflect the full power of Edison's shots while staying in range to comeback with his own.

    That's called skills.
     
  11. Cisco Route

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    I think Hopkins did him in. It truly amazing how many guys haven't been the same after fighting him...
     
  12. Tancred

    Tancred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bollocks he's way overrated by Americans especially white ones
     
  13. Tancred

    Tancred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How was Pavlik living in the run up to the Hopkins fight
     
  14. travolt

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    How's that ?

    He wrecked Miranda, like none before.

    The same Miranda who 2 years later went 12 rds with Mr P2P ( ahem) Andre Ward son of god himself !
     
  15. detamour

    detamour Guest

    Alcohol abuse, long before hopkins man.