Was prime Mike Tyson a "face first brawler"?

in his absolute prime he was very scientific as his career winded down he was more of an in your face intimidator relying on his punch

 

I don't agree with either choice. He was an aggressor fighter who was defensive. He was artistic. Here is a guy who could bob and weave and get inside and not get hit and work the body and then soon hit the head. He was great. Face first would imply that he was hit, and when he was young he wasn't.

 

Not easy labeling him one or the other.

He was face first in a sense but if you saw that face, chances were you saw alot of bombs along with it.

In his short window of time, he was maybe the most destructive "swarmer' in history.

Once desire left him, and celebrity/money found him, he became an average fighter.

 

This.

Mike was quick on his feet, excellent defense and the best punch slipping Ive ever seen in a HW.

He was also great at maneuvering his opponents into position, cutting off the ring, and closing distance to quickly get through their punching range.

Master class bob n weave, peek a boo, angle punching, unusual combos.

 

You summed it up perfectly Bodysnatcher :good


Swarmer yes, face-first brawler, No

 

According to Jack, who started this thread, it was Michigan Warrior who claimed Tyson was a "face first brawler." With that in mind, please allow me to pose a question. Do you guys think this thread will ascend to the same legendary heights as the "floored" thread:think

 

Anyone that voted Tyson was an aggressive boxer puncher doesnt know **** about boxing. Eric Morales is an aggressive boxer puncher. Oscar De La Hoya is an aggressive boxer puncher.


Tyson at best was a swarmer. Who had a good jab and underrated defense who slipped punches but always so he could get inside and destroy you with uppercuts.

later in his career when he lost his jab, and his ability to bob and weave he became a pure brawler, who took one to give one.

An example of an aggressive boxer puncher who was a Heavyweight would be Evander Holyfield not Mike Tyson.


I swear this forum is fully of a bunch of dumbies.

 

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Just one of many clips that can be used as evidence of Tyson's head movement! Slip the jab, then BOOM, left hook, right on target!

 

Tyson was an aggressive counter puncher, he would make you miss, duck and then come and catch you with pinpoint accuracy. This is where most of his KOS came from, he hit pretty hard too (Which unfortunately seems to overshadow all his other qualities).
THIS was what he was taught by Cus and Rooney, because he was shorter than most heavyweights, he was supposed to stay low, unhittable, wait for the opening then bang bang bang! not one punch but punches in bunches

Then by '89 he abandoned his counterpunching style and became a brawler/swarmer who was going to beat you into submission rather than make u miss and catch you. This is why opponents like Bruno, Ruddock, Holyfield and Douglas lasted longer.

1985-88 Tyson totally different to 1989 and onwards. However most people dont see that, all they saw were the KOS.

Throwing a punch and missing it and then being caught by an accurate counter punch hurts more than just being hit by a hard puncher.

Theres hard punchers and then theres sharp punchers. Foreman hits harder than Tyson, but Tysons sharp punches put people to SLEEP, whereas Foreman jsut clubbed them to submission.

 

I wouldnt classify Tyson as an aggressive counter puncher, it was just one of a wide array of tools he had was his ability to counter punch. He had one of the best counter left hooks ever in boxing.

However whether it be the death of cus, or just a pure loss of discipline, he certainly became a brawler/swarmer later on in his career.

 

It was purely because of disicipline, nothing more nothing less

He began to believe his own hype, disregarding the skills that made him champ and underestimating opponents, it worked against Bruno and Carl Williams, but Douglas was pumped, he wasnt coming to just lie down. Same with the Holyfield fight, Tyson severly underestimated him. There was a thread on here somewhere where apaprently someone said Tyson only trained 2 weeks for the Holyfield fight, i think it was Brooks (the trainer)

You can see he hadnt been training, Bruno hit Tyson with more punches than Tyson had been hit since the beginning of his career

With Rooney in his corner Tyson was 35-0 and the undefeated, undisputed champ, he was on his way to becoming possibly the GOAT, he was mentioned as in the same echelon As Louis and Ali, after leaving Rooney, 2 fights later he was on the canvas looking for his gumshield.

 

Another example of a aggressive boxer puncher.

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****in fools.