Was Prime Mike Tyson Unbeatable?

Hey cheers Pug! Yeah give him 5 minutes on his own and who knows what the hell he might do. He was a frightening individual and always gave me the feeling he was a bit of a monster TBH and out of control behind closed doors. I'm sure i remember in the early days something hitting the papers here accusations about him knocking out a parking meter lady or such and having to pay a couple of hundred thousand to get out of it.

To be honest i feel like a lot of fair minded posters get dragged into the negative by the sheer obnoxiousness of the typical Tyson nuthugger. I can say from my own experience over the years that when they have become overbearing in personal debates i have reverted to unfair but very common accusations and comments others hold him too. It gets too much. I'd still do it. On the whole tho i try to be in what i personally consider the middle ground.

 

That kid Arvid was annoying.

 

We had not see him fight a full-grown man with a jackhammer jab and mobility who wasn’t scared of him before.

Just like we hadn’t seen him ragdolled around like Holyfield did until a guy like Holyfield stepped into the ring with him.

It’s who he was fighting that made him look different. He didn’t fight appreciably different against Carl Williams or Tony Tubbs, he just whacked them out quicker.

Go watch the longer fights he had: Tillis, Mitch Green, Tony Tucker, James Smith, etc., and you’ll see after a few rounds he gears down and he’s one or two punches at a time (and usually a lot of clinching). It’s there if you aren’t blinded by his early KOs.

 

Oh she's hot. Far too hot for Mike obviously and too conniving to boot. He didn't take much fooling.

 

Tyson just recently knocked the crap out of an airline passenger and the footage is available on YouTube. But to be fair the man deserved it.

 

Yeah i saw that Goo. Still a wild unit but the guy did indeed press his buttons. This was in the 80's when he was champ. I looked for it online ages back but didn't find it. This was pre internet of course.

 

I'm aware of those fights but he won most of those very clearly. Tillis was close but still a clear victory.

"We had not see him fight a full-grown man with a jackhammer jab and mobility who wasn’t scared of him before." A full grown man? What was he fighting before? Underdeveloped children? And then you mention the old cliche that every guy he beat was scared of him. Was Tucker afraid of him? Was Tillis?

Mike's movement was gone vs Douglas. Douglas fought a great fight but he was launching barrages of straight punches without a whole lot of strategy at times and Mike just kept getting caught. He was lazy with his movement.

 

I thought the airplane incident was recent ? Maybe I was mistaken

 

It was mate sorry, i was talking about the parking meter one i mentioned.

 

Agree. I think tucker and Bonecrusher won maybe a combined four rounds against Tyson out of 24 lol…. And the Tillis fight came when Tyson was what ? 19 years old and in the pros maybe 15 months ?

 

Actually here's one of the ones i am talking about -

https://buffalonews.com/news/tyson-...cle_34b7fbe4-3c99-53a2-a361-835426bfa7fc.html

I'm sure there was something about a woman in another altercation. Maybe i am remembering wrong it's a long time ago.

 

Yeah he’s had a

he’s definitely not the poster boy for tolerance lol

 

I didn’t say he didn’t win the fights. I said we had previously seen a Tyson who didn’t use head movement, didn’t jab his way in and didn’t throw combinations … we see it many times in his fights that went past the first few rounds. He never carried that gear that some think of as ‘prime Tyson’ past the midpoint of a fight. More like a pitcher who throws 99 mph for an inning and then it goes down to 95 and 90 and 85 as he goes farther.

“Full-grown man’ is an expression I use. By that I mean a tough, determined guy who isn’t quaking in his boots or looking to just last. James Smith had certainly reached physical maturity but he didn’t bring an ‘I’m just as big a man and just as tough a fighter as you’ attitude.

Tucker broke his hand and wasn’t himself. People scream on here all the time about why this or that guy didn’t get a rematch but never bring up that Tyson fought a handicapped man and still couldn’t get him out. And I haven’t seen it for a while but I seem to recall Tucker doing a lot of stop-start clinching type stuff (maybe because of the hand?) and not going all out.

Buster’s mentality was completely unafraid. There’s interviews where people have asked him about Tyson and he just kind of chuckles and says ‘he’s 5-10’ as in ‘why would I be scared of that’? Look at the first round and you’ll see a guy taking it to Tyson as in he initiates action and not only snaps that big jab but also throws a lot of really strong rights … he’s not trying to avoid a fight, he’s trying to pick one.

I disagree on Douglas fighting without purpose or plan — I think he had a game plan and was very disciplined in sticking to it. If anything he got a bit overeager and times pouring it on. Other guys would throw one punch and then cower and hope Mike didn’t hit them back.

 

The C-nt wanted a quarter million for taking ONE punch. Jesse Ferguson nearly lost his life for maybe a tenth of that amount lol

 

That's the flipside!! He also said it was too little to make up for his suffering!!! Like WTH???? Did he lose a limb? Broken bones even? The back of the hand was used on his stomach? Tyson must have a mean backhand!