Was Prime Mike Tyson Unbeatable?

The other guy def. deserved it - so glad he didn’t benefit monetarily from goading Tyson. The staff were also negligent in their failure to quell it when there were earlier signs of trouble.

Tbh, it didn’t look like Mike was trying to hit him hard, in fact Mike might’ve just been laying some punches on the body, shoulders etc. - it appeared the injuries were incurred by the passenger himself trying to avoid the punches. LOL.

There was also the even more recent incident where a woman stuck her finger in Mike’s eye - Mike didn’t do anything - that would’ve taken some self control.

 

I know I saw that. im sure a punch from Mike Tyson must hurt but come on… He didn’t want to work parking meters anymore and saw Tyson as his retirement plan

 

To be honest with you, though I'm a huge Tyson fan, I love Buster's performance in that fight and watch it often. Beautiful jab and combinations. Great movement. I don't like to diminish that performance. But I do think Mike was not the same because you could see in his very first fight with his new team, against Bruno, that he was already losing discipline.

100% blame on Mike because he couldn't maintain discipline without somebody in his ear and the fact that just a few fight without his old team he's already getting KTFO and dominated doesn't speak well for him.

Buster's performance vs Holyfield was so disappointing. But I also wonder how much could have "Tokyo Douglas" have done to Holyfield. He'd probably would have gotten his ass kicked too vs Evander in all honesty.

 

The video was funny to watch. It looked like a kid beating up his brother in the back of a car lol

 

You’re right there. It’s easy to get caught in the trap of swatting an extreme and wayward view by firing back one of your own in equal but opposing terms. We shouldn’t have to preface that most if not all think Mike was a great fighter before launching into discussion and reasonably due dissection of a great fighter, as we do with other great fighters.

I don’t abide by the excuses but the funny thing is (and many would disagree with me - so what’s new??, haha) but I give Tyson a hearing on the long count in Tokyo - of course not Buster’s fault, it was the ref’s and we’ll never know if Douglas could’ve arisen at a reasonably true “10” - so there’s no way the ultimate result could’ve been reversed.

I know all the retreaded spiels on how the count is exactly however the ref tolls it - but I disagree that it can’t be a point for conjecture where a clear ref error can be highlighted.

Therefore, I can’t be hater (LOL) nor a nut hugger - I only hug my own nuts or when a nice lady is willing, she can partake also. Sharing is caring. She has to be careful though….have I mentioned before that I have “glass” nuts??…….stop me right now if I have…….

 

Hey I am telling Naughty Polly Parrot about the excuses about Mike Tyson. Ha, Ha.

 

Too funny and so true! Brings back “fond” memories. I was the youngest of 5, I was the kid in the back egging for trouble then ducking for cover.

 

Just tell Naughty Polly Parrot not to repeat it to anyone, IF he can help himself. I heard he had plastic surgery to fix his eroded beak - toooo much snorting off the rear ends of his female counterparts. Perverted Polly. Ha!!

 

My parents had a 1972 Cadillac Deville. Thing was an ugly yellow color with brown interior and as big as a house. The back seat was huge. But when my mom reached back there to smack us she found us every time !!!!

 

LOLLLL!!

 

That's another good one. Lol.

 

The long count controversy for me is null and void due to the ref giving both of them the exact count which was close to 14 seconds each with all said and done. As long as the count for both was consistent, and it's actually identical, nothing untoward need be addressed.

The reason Douglas was allowed to go on is because he was less out of it and Tyson had also been getting beat down for round after round.

So tho i am in the camp of it being a very poor version of Tyson i am also in the camp that everything was above board. I'm pretty sure the complaining was pushed by King not Tyson. Lets be honest - was Kings cash cow likely to get the raw end of the stick?

I see claims Tyson should have won as Douglas got more than 10 seconds but the ref's count is final and no-one can say for sure Douglas would not have got up sooner if he had to.

So for me it's a storm in a teacup.

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I do not care a whole lot about this long count stuff. But I think your argument is flawed. If the referee gave long counts both times, then the fighter who first knocked down his opponent was screwed over.

 

Sure, we agree on several aspects which I hope I made clear but I view it a bit differently.

Certainly two wrongs by a ref don’t make a right, particularly when chronology is so crucial.

I found it amusing reading Octavio’s take that, given his vast experience, he saw no “need” to pick up from his time keeper (who counts real secs, just as the ref endeavours (or should) to do so).

For just a 10 sec count, Octavio managed a dilation of almost 1.5 X which if, in all possibility, it meant far more to anyone, it was Buster in the first instance.

No matter, I def. hear where you’re coming from but the bottom line, despite the ref’s errs, his count was not sufficient cause to reverse the result.

 

I completely disagree. Many counts throughout history have been proven to be over 10 seconds. Do we go back and null and void every fight where the count may have hit 10 actual seconds by the time the opponent got up?

Douglas followed the refs count and responded to it. That's all he had to do. No-one can prove Douglas would not have got up if given a quicker count.