Was RJJ at 168lbs the most unbeatable fighter ever?

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Was RJJ at 168lbs the most unbeatable fighter ever?

  1. Yes

    52.6%
  2. No - specify who and what weight class

    47.4%
  1. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-c...1&vd=0&lb=&fi=2&edrf=0&ispremium=1&flip=0&pl=
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Do you really not see it?
    I have pointed out that you come across as narcissistic and even gave you examples which were clear, copying and pasting what you wrote so you can see for yourself.
    I have highlighted your double standards and hypocrisy, yet you still don't seem to get it.
    Sadly, and I mean that when I say it, others are pointing it out to you and yet you are still lost.
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I really haven't seen you shut anyone down.
    You just type long waffling posts and people get bored
    Many of your posts are your opinions which you try and base as facts and even when you do that, can't keep a balanced debate
     
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  4. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Probably at his athletic best he was unbeatable that even a fundamentally sound and great fighter like Toney was humbled.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look at you, trying to get my attention.

    Your opinion on anything doesn’t mean a thing to me.

    I only debate you due to the comedic value that you bring.

    You need to look at your own posts before you even think about analysing anybody else’s.

    You are the guy who holds a different opinion on the SAME subject, depending on who you’re talking to.

    You are the guy who quotes stats but ignores any circumstances.

    We haven’t had a decent debate for years now.
     
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  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ha!

    You really should be on a stage somewhere.

    A balanced debate?

    You are telling me about a balanced debate?

    You?

    Ha!

    Please!

    You’ve never had a balanced debate in the 8 years that I’ve been here.

    You are deluded.

    No, people don’t get bored.

    They just don’t have a comeback.

    I’ve spent hours owning you.

    Every debate we ever had always consisted of three outcomes:

    1. You’d say it was too long to read, despite the fact that more often than not, yours were as long or even longer.

    2. You’d say you were busy but you’d return at a later date.

    3. You’d never come back at all.

    That’s it.

    That’s how the debates used to end.

    I’ve never tried to pass of my opinions as facts.

    My facts can be backed up at any point.

    If it’s an opinion, I’ll say it is.

    You’re just upset because I pulled you on that thread last month, where I highlighted your many contradictions.
     
  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I re-watched a few Jones fight the other day, and I do think he was absolutely amazing. His position as the #1 H2H 168 is so absolute, that he shut out and dropped the #2.
     
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  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not trying to get your attention.
    I just showed you how others have come to the same conclusion about you that I did.
    Even now you can't see it and with what I can only describe from you, as what looks like self importance, you think your attention is wanted :roto2palm:
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh Loudon, you didn't pull me up for anything. You just applied double standards and tried to pass that as a fact.
    Do you even remember how you came out with something like the only points that matter are yours?
    You have often tried to pass off your opinions as facts and are just upset when others don't accept that.
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who are the others?

    You jumped into the Floyd thread the other day, just because you saw the opportunity to criticise me. You had no idea what was said between me and that poster. You had no idea that we’d debated back and forth on numerous threads over the last few months. You had no idea of the context.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I called you out on your hilarious contradictions.

    I’m not going to have a back and forth with you here.

    If you want to debate about Roy’s career, go ahead.

    If you don’t, then move along.
     
  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look at this thread alone and others have used words like delusional, narcissistic, double standards
     
  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's the point
    You can't see your own double standards and contradictions

    A good example is how you called Benn shot when Collins beat him.

    Benn was shot in your opinion because he lost a SD to a world class SMW.
    You said Benn was retired when he fought Collins even though he had only fought 4 months earlier
    Benn was 11-2-1 in world title fights
    Benn was 32

    But you rate Frochs win over Kessler who had been less active than Benn leading up to the rematch, was 11-2 in world title fights and 34

    Still to you. One was completely shot and the other a great win

    It's this sort of hypocrisy that has made you a joke
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who?

    A guy who is LITERALLY mentally ill, who goes online and spews venom at a complete stranger, calling him a child molester etc?

    Yeah, his opinion really holds weight.
     
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I’ve never said that Froch had a great win over Kessler.

    My issue, was where you had said that you didn’t rate Ward’s win over Carl Froch very highly, because you think that Carl was faded.

    Yet at the same time, you were trying to hype Collins’ TWO wins over Nigel Benn.

    If you can’t see how that is ridiculous, you need to share the same padded cell with Joe.boxer.

    Just think about that for a second.

    Andre beat Carl with absolute ease with a double fractured hand = A decent win.

    Collins beat a faded Benn who had to withdraw in the 4th round of their first = A great win.

    Ha!

    GTFOH!

    That is clear delusional bias for your favourite fighters.

    You cannot dismiss Ward’s win over Froch, by saying that Froch was faded, whilst you’re claiming Collins’ wins over Benn were GREAT.

    That is a special kind of stupid.

    Nigel Benn was clearly faded.

    These are the FACTS: (not opinions)

    He had a shadow on his brain.

    He retired after the loss to Malinga.

    He came out of retirement and bet huge money on himself for the only time in his career, and used it as a motivational tool.

    The first fight was stopped due to injury in the 4th round.

    He retired for good afterwards, saying that he had nothing left to give.

    After he retired, he said he knew he was gone in the Collins fight.

    Those are the facts.

    Facts which you blindly ignore, as it doesn’t suit your agenda.

    If you don’t want to rate Ward’s win over Carl because Carl was faded, fine, no problem. But don’t dismiss it and then try and kid me that Steve Collins had TWO GREAT wins over Nigel Benn, when he too was faded an injured.

    Now if you can’t see an issue with the above, then it’s not me who’s the joke, it’s YOU.
     
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