Was Roy a great boxer or just one of the fastest reflex to step in the ring?

But it was an HBO interview when he clearly called all the good fighters from Super Middleweight out. It was before the fight with Brannon which I think was his last fight there. I searched for the video on Youtube but couldn't find it.

I am not saying Roy made all the best fights possible, but I think people were reluctant to fight him as well.

 

lol thankz mate glad you enjoyed that :good

 

They didnt call him Superman for nothing. He didnt have the basic fundamentals to fall back on. But when he was on his game, he was the most amazing fighter I ever saw live.

 

Roy had immense athletic gifts that allowed him to box in a way no one else could touch, his training all maximised that ability - he was never that interested in having a textbook defense or working in behind tight fundamentals, mostly because of the advantages he had over everyone else by not doing that.

As those skills started to fade, he was less and less able to make it count, that combined with the body changes he went through after Ruiz makes it hard to judge him past that point.

The irony is, had he gone out as the HW champion, we'd be looking at him in the top 10. I still think he deserves to be there, considering we don't hold the losses of Ali, Moore, Louis and co against them when their best was beyond them.

 

seeing roy do three left hooks in pretty much half a second during his prime, made my brain explode

 

Good Post:good

Though I don't know if Roy would be as high as 10, I think once he finally stops fighting and give it a bit of time, people will look back and be able to tell the difference between the Roy of then and the Roy of now.

 

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.

:good

 

green just landed a good shot and won its boxing **** happens

 

Take it easy bro, and dont take everything so seriously.

I thought his post had some good info, some not so coherent, but overall it gave me a chuckle.

There was some good dry humor in it.......

......but I guess not everyone appreciates dry humor.

 

Great boxer.


His natural ability was just so good, it was hard for people to look past it and see the subtleties.

I hear claims that Roy never had to work as hard as others because he was so gifted. Now I know what the people who say this are intending, but that gives an indication that Roy never really worked that hard.

You don't understand Roy as a fighter if you don't understand his work ethic.

 

If you're gonna quote a movie, you should use quote tags, otherwise it's plagiarism.

 

You need to read the way in which I stated that.

Roy never had to work on his technique, he never had to tighten up things and remove flaws from his technique because he was so fast that he was actually making some of those flaws into strengths.

His weird awkward angles, his tendency to punch off balance and leave his hands down at all times - those were things he actively worked on, his fitness level, his physique and his explosiveness, yes, he worked tirelessly there.

But unlike the Bernard Hopkins with Bouie Fischer, or the Floyd Mayweather Jr with the Mayweathers, he never tirelessly perfected his actual craft - he never put those fundamental textbook things in place that would mean when the physical prime stopped, the technical prime would begin.

 

It's actually not that simple.

There's always 2 sides to a story.

You think everyone you wished Roy had fought in his career made legitimate offers to Roy?

People could ask Roy during his decade long reign of being p4p no. 1 for 60-40, and if Roy said no and the fight didn't happen, it was Roy who ducked him.

After all, it's Roy.

 

Please........Jones went 10 years from the James Toney fight to actually get into the ring with a fighter that possibly had a realistic chance against him.......and even then it was a cherry picked Heavyweight champ John Ruiz.

......but you're going to sit there and tell me that everyone ducked Roy Jones.

His prime years were imo waisted.
If he was the one being ducked, Jones should have conceded some of the money that would go to him to get fights made.......he still was going to come out with the better end of the financial pie......
.....but the fact of the matter was that Jones was asking for so much, it did'nt leave much for those that were going to risk themselves against Jones.

.....and the bottom line is that at the end of it all, even HBO got sick of his antics.
Why do you think Larry Merchant and Roy Jones did'nt get along?

.......because Merchant was'nt afraid to critique Jones on air about who he was fighting.........Merchant critiqued even though he knew he'd have to work with Jones as a broadcaster.

Its 2009, nearing 2010, and Roy Jones Jr. defining fights came very early in his career over 15 years ago in 1993 and 94.

The next best thing to that was his title winning effort against one of the weakest heavyweight champions in history.

Lets get real here, its no secret that Roy Jones was not a risk taker.

A talker, but not a walker.

 

I agree with this. It was mainly his athleticism that made him so good.