He went on far too long, and has ruined his legacy. Far too many losses to be considered great now. Plus theres the PED thing.
This. IMO both Holyfield and RJJ badly tainted their legacies by carrying on for way way past their due date.
If Michael Spinks fought at cruiser in his prime and could have met a prime Holy at that weight Evander would have done better against Spinks than Jones would have done against Michael at light heavy, I feel spinks was a better fighter than Jones at LH.
Tarver didn't just balloon up in weight like fighters do. He mentions in an interview that he lifted weights. He looks about the same as he always did, but bigger, not super fat.
In this day and and age no fighter with 9 LOSSES can be called Great. Great fighters retire to keep their legacy intact. The more you carry on, the more you risk losing it.
Therefore Jones Jr will always be known as a PED cheating, glass jawed boxer who got knocked out by Danny Green and a totally shot Enzo Maccirinelli.
I was very surprised that Jones continued to fight longer after he should have or should have needed to. I have no idea about his personal life but I'd be incredulous if someone as intelligent as him (for a fighter) would need the money. It's surprising because he stated many times during his ascension his desire to get all he could out of the sport and to retire with his faculties intact. And yet he kept getting ko'ed, as if he just couldn't accept that it was over and make room for some other guys to enjoy the spotlight.
i repeat , chubbing up for a movie isnt the same as massing up for top level sports, unless you think sylvester stallone or that guy playing Wolverine really could win a title fight. This fact should not be beyond you.
Means nothing what they gained weight for. What matters is that they both drained down for a fight. If Hugh Jackman had to suddenly lose that weight he gained for Wolverine because he was starting MMA or boxing, then yeah, it would affect him just the same.
That is a warped perspective. Intelligent people are able to distinguish what a fighter did in their prime, as opposed to what they became by fighting on too long. I agree Roy fought far too long. But, in his prime, he was a force of nature.