Was Roy Jones overrated?

The general forum remains an absolute uninformed clueless cesspool I see...

Well back to classic where the posters are actual boxing fans

 

Roy was properly rated as one of the best based on his reflexes which can't be improved with any substance, pill, powder or liquid.
With a bruised hand, he navigated a safe, boring but sure win over a Hopkins too afraid to take chances. No substance helped RJJ, just his belief in self regardless of injury and Hop's lack thereof.

His impeccable timing along with speed and reflex is how he beat James T who was P4P top at the time. With no power shots, Roy shut out a P4Per.

Before Roy, Ray Robinson mastered a risky move- 3 hooks in a row. RJJ broke that record and could land 4 hooks in a row.
Without being countered, no drugs could do that. That is pure talent, innate.

As RJJ moved from SMW, to LHW is when his Ripped Fuel days seem to take a front seat. I think that played into him dropping a man with his hands behind his back or the rib injury Hill suffered. As when he dropped back down to LHW his form, his muscles seemed diminished, gone.
And his final days, like so many greats before him Archie Moore, Henry Armstrong, Ray Robinson, Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell Whitaker, guys who went years without losing, found themselves losing several times a year at the end of their respective careers.
Same with Roy Jones, Shaquielle Oneil, Michael Jordan, Kobe Byrant, Brett Favre, Joe Montana, Tiger Woods. Their endings doesn't negate their beginnings. Its not how you die its how you live.
Roy's greatness was in that he was the first in compubox history to make a fighter miss for a whole round.
He could throw 4 left hooks without being countered.
He could do a dance move and not lose his footing/position.
He forced fighters to overthink, thus fighting Roy's fight and not their.
I remember Roy for his flawless fight resulting in a flawed robbery in the Olympics and most important, I remember Roy's winning in each weight division with pure God given talent and reflexes, not monsterous juiced-power. By the time he was known for Ripped Fuel, he had already established himself. With the Juice he was trying to maintain it.

 

See you ****ro.

 

Your boyfriend GG can't and won't get a title at super middle weight, Jones went all the way to HW, GG keeps on feeding on smaller fighters....

 

I was 17 in the 90's son. I started watching baxing before you little balls had even dropped.

I just didn't like watching drugs cheats that's all.

How old were you in the 90's

 

Old enough that I wasn't randomly insulting posters without provocation.

If you feel like my post was directed at you, then you could have said that and asked me to counter your points which I would have gladly done, in detail and in a polite respectful manner.

For example:

Drugs Cheat? Androstenedione was legal at the time and Indiana commission had no authority to test for it, the substance was not banned atathe time by the sanctioning bodies which is why Roy kept his belts and nothinghappened.
This is verifiable fact by the way.

But instead you post things like "roided slabs of concrete" or "everything good about Jones came out of a bottle" to the point where you're not even a boxing fan, you're just a heroworshipper of a few boxers (and your selection criteria of the boxers you like is quite obvious and suspect by the way)


Maybe you can become the next Roy Jones, all you need is a substance that was available over the counter at supplement stores back then. Hmmm I wonder why there weren't dozens of Roy Jones out there if it was all just the androstenedione??

 

You insulted everyone on general board by saying their opinion is trash and you are going to go to "classical" forum because that's where real baaaxing fans hang out. And then you never leave.

So get off that horse you are not impressing anyone.

Roy was a drugs cheat. FACT. You can paint it however you want. if you want to worship a drug cheat good on ya. Just don't criticise people that don't.

 

babbi listen

the difference between functionality and appearance.

stop wasting my time with "oh he was beefy for a film!". Tom Cruise dont do his stunts, stop getting conned by a "look"

 

In this day and age?

So Klitschko is not an all time great?

Tyson is not an all time great?

Lomachenko lost his second fight and got taught a painful lesson...does that diminish his ranking?

 

Not even trying anymore I see.

 

I said 9 losses! Imagine if Joe Calzaghe had carried on way past his prime and got 9 Losses most by KO!.. We all know his legacy would have been tarnished

 

No. However, he shortened what was left of his prime by trying to cut back down to 175 after bulking up to 190+. After Roy beat Ruiz he should've stayed at heavyweight and cashed out against Lennox Lewis/Tyson or retired. It made no sense to cut back down to 175 and especially with Jones being 34. His body looked worn out every fight after the Ruiz fight.

 

i am trying Babbi to help you.

going up in weight whilst maintaining optimum efficiency, then retaining it on the way down, is completely different from just chubbing up then losing it.


I note that you compare as same a MW going up to HW the same as a LHW going up. Your maths isnt helping.

 

Listen son, both Tarver and Roy lost a good deal of weight for a fight.

Maximum efficiency? Lol. Losing weight is losing weight. Tarver wasn't Hatton. He looked like a bigger version of himself, fit to fight, then he had to lose weight for an actual fight. But yeah, keep making it seem like it's more complicated.

Roy got sparked the second fight, he had time to recover. He lost fair and square.