Was Taylor and Chavez stopped primaturely?

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  1. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    I said "full fight" in my post. That's just a highlight video with bad music and it obnoxiously replays over and over again when a shot lands. There used to be over 4 different videos that were the full match.
     
  2. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That’s a common occurrence though just as stopping a fight is after a combatant doesn’t respond.
     
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  3. mirexxa

    mirexxa Heavyweight Champ Full Member

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    Yes it was and nobody can convince me otherwise
     
  4. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, Taylor never responded to the referee's instructions.
     
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  5. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    Undefeated Olympic gold medalist Meldrick Taylor got Chavez in an American ring with an American ref & judges & still managed to get flattened & stopped. Any other decision by Richard Steele would have resulted in the wrong guy winning the fight. Meldrick was fading & getting busted up as the fight wore on. Truth be told, Chavez wasn't even a fully-fledged Light Welter. He only fought there b/c that's where the money was. Meldrick was a fully-fledged Light Welter but got stopped legit by the great Mexican. This wasn't Canelo v GGG level help from the officials. This was a great Mexican out-toughing a blue-chip American who would never be the same again after this fight. So my answer is 'no'.
     
  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    it should have been stopped the second lou duva jumped up onto the apron. thats an automatic disqualification. i guess its still the reason the fight was stopped because when steele was looking for confirmation that taylors head was in the ring, taylor was too busy staring at duva on the apron to respond to steeles questions.
     
  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it was a bad stoppage to me Richard Steele seemed to be in a hurry to stop the fight, the way I see it is this. If the shoe was on the other foot, and it was Chavez going down in the last round, of a fight that he was well ahead on points. Would Steele of stopped the fight in the last round ? Ask yourself that.

    I also blame Taylor's corner aswell for telling him he needed the 12th round, and distracting him for a split second when Steele was talking to him.
     
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  8. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Excuse me but it's MR STEELE to you, not Richard.
     
  9. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    No it's when they throw the towel or enter the ring.

    You could be a row back and throw in the towel to stop a fight. Regardless, since I'm in the thread it was a good stoppage, Taylor was done, was out to lunch, not responding, looked like ****. Steele had every right to stop the fight and did what he thought was just. End of.
     
  10. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Except I know him, soooo...
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    it falls under interference by the corner. jumping up on the apron while the rd is ongoing is a forfeit. different state commissions word it differently in their particular rules, but its prohibited in all states. unless the rules have changed since the last time it was an issue.
     
  12. tinman

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    Even without Duva jumping up, the fight itself should have been stopped. Points and scorecards don't factor into a referee's thought process when one man is thoroughly beaten (physically I mean) and under serious threat of irreversible bodily harm should the fight continue. Chavez had physically broken Taylor (which is why he was never the same) even though Taylor's heart and spirit were still willing to go on.
     
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  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i agree. steele is not responsible for what could happen, but what did happen. he asked questions of a fighter who he had watched sustain a continuous beating for more than a half hour, the fighter could not respond, or would not, so its over, time left has nothing to do with what his duty was at that point. im just pointing out that technically, the fight was over once duva interfered with the refs work.
     
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  14. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Can you please point me to this rule. I've not seen this as I've been looking. It's totally up to the Ref, as far as I can recall and is not automatic.

    But I agree it was a proper stoppage regardless IMO
     
  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    L. The chief second may forfeit the contest by stepping up onto the ring apron during any round and signaling the referee. If the chief second steps up on the apron before the round is ended the contest is immediately forfeited.
    thats from the la. athletic commission, other states, including nevada, have versions of the same rule.