Was the Cotto knockout loss really that much of a surprise?

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  1. Martini643

    Martini643 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hurt by Torres
    Hurt by Corley
    Hurt by Mosley
    Hurt by Judah

    hell even Malignaggi stunned him, was this really that much of a shock that he would get ko'd for someone who doesnt stop coming at him for 12 rounds?
     
    Martini643, Jul 28, 2008
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  2. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    yes it was, what was your prediction before the fight?
     
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  3. Martini643

    Martini643 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Margarito late stoppage
    Cotto late stoppage



    This fight I knew going in wasn't going to go the distance
     
    Martini643, Jul 28, 2008
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  4. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    To me?Not at all.
     
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yes, I was surprised. I felt that Cotto was mobile enough and violent enough to survive.

    And to me it looks very much like Cotto was beaten and broken rather than KO'd. Sometimes it all gets to much even for a hard man.
     
    McGrain, Jul 28, 2008
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  6. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no offense but when you actually engage and not run from your opponet ... you are gonna get tagged ..
     
    CottoDaBodykill, Jul 28, 2008
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  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Since i saw it as a 50/50 fight going in, no the stoppage was not a surprise. However, the way it went down was shocking!
     
    booradley, Jul 28, 2008
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  8. yalipito

    yalipito Member Full Member

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    No, I'm from PR and a big fan, but I knew:
    1. Margo=bigger
    2. Margo's gas tank=huge
    3. Margo=tough/steel jaw
    3.5 Margo=relentless
    4. Cotto=gets tired after 8 rnds or so
    5. Cotto=rocked before by smaller men
    6. Me=sad to see him koed
     
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  9. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Cotto didn't have the greatest chin but I knew he was gonna hang tough because of his heart. Remember he always got up. That is not any indication of a china chin.

    I did mention prior to this fight that Cotto is much more fragile than Margarito. We got in an argument about cuts some time ago and I just knew Cotto was gonna get busted up in this. He has very thin skin and a soft face unlike Margarito who is rugged as hell. Infact a stoppage by cuts would not have surprised me, if it were Cotto being stopped.

    But no, I expected a TKO. Heart is gonna get you pretty far against Margarito but it's gonna be brutal at the end. He's basically like he is in the first in the 10th. And Cotto's split guard allows for shots to break through. Which is why he didn't get as far as Clottey.

    Tony is a small man killer. Don't ever forget it! He's never lost to a man smaller than himself.
     
    Ambition_Def, Jul 28, 2008
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  10. DINAMITA

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    Why, when did Cotto suffer a KO loss?
     
    DINAMITA, Jul 28, 2008
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  11. JMP

    JMP Champion Full Member

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    my hat's off to you. great call on this fight:good

    what small men do you think would be able to beat tony throughout history? because currently, none have that ability.
     
    JMP, Jul 28, 2008
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  12. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    No because Cotto's punch resistance is not as great as Margarito's. Cotto would not fight that well going backwards . And he's been shaken a few times.

    I was surprised he took a knee; twice!
     
    Sinew, Jul 28, 2008
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  13. ayala

    ayala Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i must agree with you
     
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  14. Martini643

    Martini643 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thats a good point but those guys who hurt cotto arent as good as a finisher like Margarito is. When he has you hurt, say goodnight except Paul Williams he ran out of time
     
    Martini643, Jul 28, 2008
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  15. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Margo will eat up any guy he has a significant size advantage on. The moment that advantage is gone and the other guy can punch Margo is through. Im not nocking the man its just what I truly believe.
    Still Margo did a fantastic job, lets see where he can take it now.
     
    RafaelGonzal, Jul 28, 2008
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