Was the McDermott-Fury review a bit of a cop-out?

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  1. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Now the dust has settled on the ruling over the McDermott vs Fury fight..... does anyone feel that the decision was a bit of a cop-out?

    Clearly, a rematch was in order, lot's of people scored the fight differently, generally by a couple of points in favour of McDermott, though myself and a few others had it even.

    By cop-out, I mean the lack of a public statement regarding the actions of Terry O'Connor, and also no statement regarding the continuous use of a scoring referee rather than the preferred three judges or as a bare minimum, a single ringside judge.

    IMO - it seems like Frank Maloney was right. The issue was swept under the carpet, and the rematch was ordered as a PR exercise, pretty much.

    Thoughts?
     
    Beeston Brawler, Sep 26, 2009
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  2. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IMO, the BBBofC made the decision that was ultimately the most pragmatic. As Gaz said the other day, changing the result would have potentially opened up a can of worms. Also, had they put O'Connor on some sort of public trial that could have also been a nasty situation.

    The rematch was the best option of those available, IMO.
     
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  3. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    We need to get rid of this ancient system of referee's scoring fights, then things like this wouldn't happen. I can't believe they still do this even in English title fights.
     
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  4. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I suppose it was, but short of going the whole hog and changing to a three judge system, this is always a scenario that can occur

    I'm sure they'll keep an eye on O'Connor for the foreseeable

    You can't overturn results, O'Connor was appointed ref and judge under the existing rules - and that's that

    And they must have their reasons for not wanting to go to three judges

    All in all they played it right I think
     
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  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I wouldn't advocate changing the result in any circumstances - obviously it was right to order a rematch..... but I cannot help but think it was just a token gesture.

    There needs to be three ringside judges for EVERY fight - there are always plenty of referees at every show, and they watch the fights from ringside, so why not give them a pen and paper?

    Simply no excuse for that, at all.
     
    Beeston Brawler, Sep 26, 2009
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  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Yes you can overturn results, it should have been a NC if they had any morals. James Toney's win over Rahman was overturned, I'm sure the BBBoC have the power to do that otherwise what the **** is their point.

    It was pretty much a cop out, yes. But you expect this type of bull**** in all sports, they are never accountable for their employees.
     
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  7. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, it's easy to judge things with the benefit hindsight, BB. No doubt it was a mistake and, hopefully, the BBBofC will learn from it. As Tommy has said, the old system is outdated- it needs to be changed. Hopefully this fight has highlighted it.
     
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  8. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Not quite sure where I stand on those.... Rahman basically quit and the referee was right to award Toney the win by stoppage - which is entirely correct.

    The system in America gives fighters a back door having been cut to basically ***** out of the fight.

    I think it was you that said when a fighter is accidentally cut and is deemed unable to continue by the doc, then it should be a NC.... if he is deemed able and chooses not to, then it's a stoppage.
     
    Beeston Brawler, Sep 26, 2009
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  9. zico2010

    zico2010 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im guessing its got something to do with money.
     
    zico2010, Sep 26, 2009
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