Was the ring mag annual 1999 P4P ratings the best top 10 P4P in the history of the sport

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  1. mark ant

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  4. George Crowcroft

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    Not quite as good as the 40s.
     
  5. Eddie Ezzard

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    Not quite as good as I remember it, to be fair, as @mark ant has correctly pointed out.
     
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  7. Ken Ashcroft

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    I didn’t make the list, Mark. It’s great looking at everything with the benefit of hindsight but the fact remains that Tyson was still regarded as the best P4P fighter in the world until he lost to Buster Douglas in 1990. Looking back it’s interesting to note that I think he may well have been the last heavyweight boxer to be the consensus choice as the best P4P in the world. That was over 30 years now and I wonder how long it’s going to be before a heavyweight gets that recognition again?
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    1982 would like someone to hold its beer -

    Champions -

    Larry Holmes
    Michael Spinks/Dwight Braxton
    Marvin Hagler
    Wilfredo Benitez/Thomas Hearns (early then late year)
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Aaron Pryor
    Alexis Arguello
    Salvador Sanchez/Eusebio Pedroza
    Wilfredo Gomez
    Jeff Chandler/Lupe Pintor

    There's 14 fighters. Have a ****ing look at that lot. A heavyweight that makes many top 5's. Spinks a top 5 light heavy. Hagler easily a top 5 Middleweight. Benitez a top 5 Junior Welter, Hearns perhaps number 1 and a top 10 Welter. SRL usually found around #2 at 147. Pryor often rated tops at 140. Arguello a high ranking lightweight and P4P stud. Sanchez and Pedroza top 10 Feathers. Gomez numero uno at 122. Chandler and Pintor around the top 10 fringe at 118.

    On top of this we had Duran in a lull but with some big wins still ahead of him. Saad had only just been knocked out of the 10.

    That lot is pure insanity.



     
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  9. George Crowcroft

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    Well, you have the mid 40s.

    Louis > Holmes
    Charles/Moore > Spinks/Qawi
    The BMR > Hearns/Benitez
    Robinson > Leonard
    Williams' era > Pryor/Arguello
    Pep/Saddler > Pedroza/Sanchez
    Ortiz's era > Chandler/Pintor/Gomez
    Peterson/Kane = Chitalada/Chang

    There's obviously more divisions in the 80s so I tried to group a few together.

    And even in the divisions where there wasn't one superior fighter, the divisions were still much better. Middleweight, for example.
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    Mine is a snapshot in a single year. You could narrow it down to a snapshot of a single day in early 82. Holmes was pretty much peak, Spinks, Hagler, SRL and plenty of the others were also around the top of their game.

    It's pretty strong.
     
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  11. roughdiamond

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    The mid 1930s would have had an absolutely top p4p list as well.
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

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    Alright, 1946.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

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    List your 10 and where they were in relation to their peak period.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

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    Bit demanding.
     
  15. mark ant

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