was this fight ever filmed???

Apologies Teeto.

 

apologies Shommel.

 

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You idiot... please post my response now...... and the first sucker punch.

 

That last paragraph reads brilliantly... hey... partner.

You idiot.

 

flamengo,

Since you seem to be in a pissy and confrontational mood and are clearly trying to embarass me in front of everyone allow me to make a few thigns very clear to you.First off, what I have in my possession was GIVEN to me under the understanding that it is not to be passed on to anyone else, and since I have known this person for close to a decade it would be dishounorable of me to break my promise to this man.

And another reason why I won`t release this film or some of the other films I have is for this same reason, sometimes you are given something by someone under the condition that it is not to be passed on and as a man of my word I tend to keep my promises. Also, some of the rare footage I have I bought myself for what are to me considerable sums of money, and some of that footage I have released over the years.

I don`t know about you, but I don`t go around sharing footage I`ve paid several hundred dollars for to just any Tom, Dick and Harry like its some regular Tyson or Ali fight, where the **** is your head? When you pay good money on a **** salary like the one I`m making to acquire some rare films which took years to find and years to convince the owners of said footage to even be willing to sell them to me and at a steep price to boot then you can say something to me, until then why don`t you shut your ****ing piehole and **** off.

I have shared a lot of what I have in my possession and several people on this very site will attest to that, because unlike you are trying to imply I am ratehr generous with my collection but the people who know me well understand my position on these matters and respect it unlike you. And yes I agree it sucks to have to withhold footage and not be able to share with others, I agree completely with you but alas its something that needs to be done.

The reason for that is quite simple, and that is because if all of a sudden everyone has a Greb fight for example, then its value as a bargaining chip for other fight films goes down to nil. This is the reality of trading fight films, if you have something rare in your possession hold onto at least some of it to use for acquiring some equaly rare footage, because most of the collectors who have the really good stuff are well off and won`t take money, but they will swap film however if you have something of interest to them.

I can keep going on and on here on this subject as I`ve been trading and acquiring fight films since I was 12 yes TWELVE years old, so I know what the **** I am talking about here and have made numerous contacts over the years thru my persistence and passion for this beautiful sport, and since I do not wish to burn the bridges that I worked so hard to establish and maintain by releasing footage that was asked to be kept to myself by those who gave it to me, I think you will understand when I tell you to kindly **** off and go to hell and keep your mouth shut before trying to put someone on the spot like you did with me, these tactics tend to backfire more often than not. I tried to reach out to you and see if you could help me in my quest to get some rare stuff, seems like you were only interested in acting like an ass, shame.

 

Why don`t you post it yourself kangaroo jack? You`ve got the pm in your sent box, do the work yourself you immature ****.

 

Your a real classy fellow, aren`t you?

 

Im not the DEFENDANT... stupid!!!!

 

I`m done with you, and this is not the people`s court pal, its an internet forum. I`ll let my reputation and replys to you speak for themselves, that is all.

 

Your post is ludicrous.... who has the right to profit from fight films??? Unless its shown in a public forum with financial gain?? Or marketed for the same reason?? Both avenues are typically as bad...

keep the film.. firmly plant it in your own 'undisclosed' location, as its serving the same minimal purpose of your own satisfaction... Ironically, at the first mention of 'other' footage being suggested, you come running like a oversized shoe flapping clown, suffering the indignation of being a bigger clown than assumed, and selfishly hoping to control... (me and you).... any other films made available. You idiot. You're a saleman.. a poor one at that.. very unconvincing.. and looking rather ridiculous. Im bored slagging you off. Thanks for the dance Princess..

For the sake of the viewing arena... put the footage on 'youtube'... nothing has value, unless its unearthed.

 

Your 37 years old yet reply in this manner? Hell, my 9 year old stepson shows more maturity than you judging by your replys to me so far, grow up man, seriously. And if you are so keen on acquiring rare films, maybe if you or anyone else here for that matter put in HALF the effort I have over the years to acquire films then maybe you would have something to show for it instead of coming onto an internet forum and embarassing yourself in an immature and misguided attempt at embarassing someone else because they have footage you don`t.

Again, grow the **** up and act like an adult, your only succeeding in making yourself look more and more foolish with each successive response to me in this thread.

 

OOPS.. jeez. I must have embarassed myself... did your 9 y/o nephew suggest that??

Mate... I'm 37.. just a pup in the eyes of many......

When it comes to possesion, in the true sense, we are mere custodians of anything. Stop being greedy.. stop being a sulk..


Ok... I'll do a deal.. if intersted. I'd ask for a PM.. but, its an open forum... I'll trade Ali/Foreman on DVD for the 'one min' you have.. Ali/Foreman is worthy.... well, it would be if assholes like you obtained it prior to world wide release.

Have a nice weekend mate.

 

lads stop fighting

Flamengo, Raging_B_ll is a nice guy and i can understand where you are coming from. It would be good if people with rare films shared them out to people, i know i would. But he did agree with people not to share them and i would not share them as i am a man of my word too. As for buying fights Bull has doen theis and tehy obviously cost him alot of time and money to get and he feels he shouldnt just share it out. I dont agree with this but can see why he does it.
I agre people should share out film among other fight fans to stop amazing fighters and fights being lost in time. I do think some collectors are greedy but the world isnt perfect. In a pefect world we would all share fight films but there are other factors such as money and time taking to get films. i one day hope to acquire a lare collection of fights and release them to people but thats just me.

Guys just stop fighting please were all boxing fans and should treat each other like the boxers in the films are with each other. They show respect. So lads stop the bickering and sort it out please.

 

I also understand where flamengo is coming from in terms of how great it would be if everyone would share their rare fight films, but Craig has been nothing less than of gentleman when we spoke and I felt that any attacks on his character are unwarranted.

If you spend your hard-earned money and time on rare fight films, then it becomes somewhat of an investment. That's the way people need to look at it.

If you uncovered some Greb fight footage and knew full well the invaluable gem you possessed, would you seriously upload it onto youtube? Call me pragmatic, but I'm just a simple college student without a steady job -- so I'm going to sell that sucker and make some extra cash. Yeah, it would be nice to upload some never-before-seen footage for all you guys here, but seriously, how many of you are willing to help pay for my tuition? Exactly. Don't take it personally, but until you guys pitch in and pay for my schooling, I think I'd rather look out for myself.

Raging B(_)LL worked hard to come across whatever he has in his possession; he owes us nothing. If he decides to share his rare footage, he's only hurting himself financially (I don't think I need to explain why). I would love to see some footage of Robinson/LaMotta V, but then I'd be the selfish one. I'm not going to mooch off of someone else's hard work and financial investment.

Just my two cents.