This wouldn't be the first time I've started a thread on Trevor Berbick. But I think the last time was several years ago. He took a prime Holmes 15 rounds during a time when most others weren't. Beat young versions of John Tate, Greg Page, Pinklon Thomas to along with a few lesser notables in David Bey, Mitch Green and Gordon Racette. He also beat a shot to hell Muhammad Ali, but probably not something we'll give him much credit for. I think he was pretty good.
He was pretty good. Resilient, brave, somewhat crafty, confident. Couldn't take a shot all that well. No outstanding skill, but decent at a number of things.
Good points about Berbick. Big strong tough guy. First Holmes title defense that went the distance. I even give him credit for the Tyson fight in that he went out there and tried his best to fight him and land some damaging blows. I have more respect for him trying to win rather than going out there and just running or grabbing incessantly for 12 rounds with the only goal to last and survive. He fought to win.
He was pretty damn good. I don't even remember that he fought Holmes. He had talent. Not the fastest guy, but made good use of the talent he had, some good wins. a valiant effort against Tyson too!
Ehhhh... no, in my opinion. If anything I think it might go the other way and get gets too much credit for going the distance with Holmes and catching Pinklon Thomas at the right time, when Thomas was in a drug fueled haze. Especially if it weren't for the latter and him then being a Tyson victim, he'd have been nothing but a fringe contender who'd be a trivia question for most fans. Oh, and that guy that Larry Holmes drop kicked that one time.
I think he was a clear underdog against Tate, Page and Thomas, so he was underrated there. But on the other hand he was beaten by Snipes and was abysmal against S.T.Gordon.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Many were still not completely sold on Tyson. Remember a week before this bout the fight was a pick'em (late money made Iron Mike a warm favourite). During the first round the commentary picked up on the blows being thrown and suggested someone could go down. Yes it was Berbick, but at the time there was a big element of doubt as to who it was going to be.
the GOAT without a doubt, he did beat ali, and tyson is better than ali because he did beat berbick and ali could not
Arguably the best heavy in the world when Tyson beat him. He'd have handled Spinks and a rematch between him and Holmes would have been 50/50.
I dont really think he was underrated in fact his timing was perfect in the Tate fight (Big John was totally ruined and gun shy after the Weaver loss) I know people who were close to Pinklon Thomas and he got back into heavy heroin use just prior to Berbick fight. He got a very beatable Ali at the very end. I think we also saw him get KO'd by Bernardo Mercado in 1 and Tyson in 2, Berbick was a good fighter but I think overrated by some. It was a pleasure to see Tyson kind of put everything in its proper perspective
yes and all we know that in 1986 was the diamond era (holmes was in his absolute peak,prime ali, prime louis, prime foreman, prime frazier, prime lewis, vitali klitschko and jack johnson were round among others)