Was Vuyani Bungu shot when he fought Naz?

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  1. NALLEGE

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    Bungu was not shot. He should not have taken the fight because he was inactive for a year before he took the Hamed fight. All he saw was money at the time, and if you fought Hamed, you got paid. Bungu's balance was terrible in that fight, and he got hit with all of Hameds shots before the ko.
     
  2. NALLEGE

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    Clearly Hamed's best win is probably the Tom "Boom Boom" Johnson fight. You could also lay claim to Hamed beating Kelley, Medina or even Steve Robinson. Bungu was inactive, and didn't even put up much of a fight.
     
  3. NALLEGE

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    You don't have a clue either about Kelley or Hamed's career lol. Augie Sanchez put up a better fight than Bungu lol. Bungu was not Hamed's best win. You are clearly not in the know of Hamed's career with that statement lol. I don't care how many defenses Bungu had at 122. At 126, he was inactive before he fought Hamed, and not even a fight for Hamed. Kelley might not be the massive puncher as described, but he was no slouch in that department either. Trying to belittle the poster who gave you his opinion forced me to exlax lol. :dead
     
  4. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    No he wasn't,he was in his prime and seriously intimidated before the opening bell.
     
  5. DINAMITA

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    I wish just once that you would read my post and think before opening your Calzaghe cumguzzler of a mouth and embarrassing yourself and wasting my time.

    Augie Sanchez did give Naz a better fight than Bungu, but how does that mean it was a better win?? Robin Reid gave Joe Calzaghe a better fight than Jeff Lacy, does that mean it was a better win?? Owned, for about the 5000th time.

    Has it ever crossed your mind that Bungu had such little success against Naseem because perhaps Naz was so good on the night?? I thought he was superb.

    Add the quality of performance to the quality of Bungu, who I thought was a very good fighter, and those two factors combine to give you Naseem's best career win in my opinion.

    I never said Kelley was a slouch in terms of power, did I?? I said he wasn't a massive puncher. And he wasn't. I am right again.

    So you think Tom Johnson was both "clearly" and "probably" Naz's best win(how can something be both "clear" and "probable" you dim-witted fool)?? I disagree. Johnson is a valid choice and a very good win, but the best fighter Johnson had ever beaten before Hamed was Medina (he had also lost to Medina), he was 33 at the time, and Johnson had been taken to an MD by Jose Badillo who Hamed dominated and blasted out in 7. Johnson was overmatched. Bungu had 2 wins over McKinney (IMO a better fighter than Medina) and hadn't lost in 8 years since dropping a decision to the excellent Freddie Norwood (boxrec or wikipedia him Nallege). For me, the Bungu win has the edge.

    It was a vintage performance by Naz.

    Consider yourself "exlaxed". :hi:
     
  6. Flea Man

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    Good post Dinamita.

    I hate how Naz is underrated by some, people think he would be dominated by anyone and everyone just because he lost (what was close until the championship rounds) against Barrera, an ATG.

    Naz; awesome puncher, great chin, very exciting; can't understand why he is treated with so much derision.

    Bungu was a very good win. Kelley was probably his most exciting. Not sure what his best win was, but Alicea was unbeaten and a powerful puncher and he was never the same after Naz destroyed him.
     
  7. NALLEGE

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    There wasn't/isn't a boxing fan out there who considers Bungu Hamed's best win...sorry. Your disgusting cum guzzling post shows you to be a disgusting individual also:dead. The rest of your post has nothing to do with nothing...and you know it, that is why you wrote all that mess.

    You are a boxrec/wikipedia king lol. I'm a fan who remembers the times because I was either there or watched. You try to confuse posters with your irrationality by using mathematical precision:lol:. You looked at Bungu's number of defenses at 122 lol. Nobody calls Bungu Hamed's best win. Hamed was that good that night he fought Bungu, but Bungu contributed to it with being off for over a year and even the announcers knew it as they saw his balance in that fight was bad from the start.

    Bungu was great at 122 just like Gomez...and don't compare the two lol...we don't want any false accusations going down lol...but when they both got to 126, they lost to the best at the time. You boxrec research and form your opinion, I watch the fights and form mine. Why do you think you were so off when you picked your own boy Pac to be ko'd by Dlh lol...
     
  8. bladerunner

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    whos that Rhiana lookalike in your avatar?
     
  9. My2Sense

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    No, he wasn't "shot", even if he might've looked it in the fight.

    "Aging" is a more appropriate term. He seemed to have slowed down slightly in his last few fights, but still was considered good. But like most fighters who couldn't punch, he just was made for Hamed.
     
  10. somerset

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    Freddie Cruz performance was awesome
     
  11. NALLEGE

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    Bungu was not shot. He was injured and had been coming off of a year long layoff, and fought terrible in that fight. He was ducking a whole lot more than he usually does which was his style anyway...Bungu was off balance most of the fight , and barely connected on Hamed at all. I could never call that fight Hamed's best win. I agree, coming in, Bungu was made to order for Hamed.
     
  12. NALLEGE

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    It was, but Cruz was just too small physically for Hamed.
     
  13. NALLEGE

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    Let me explain why this post is so ignorant lol. First you looked at common opponents between Hamed and Johnson lol. Second, you probably didn't even see Johnson fight Badillo lol. Third, so what Johnson lost to Medina lol. Boom Boom won the rematch, and then proceeded to beat Medina a second time. Johnson beat an undefeated Badillo FIRST...BEFORE Hamed beat him, and your claim is that Hamed stopped him in 7 as if that is a better accomplishment when both beat Badillo lol... Ignorant. Johnson had how many title defenses before he met Naz in a unification fight?

    Bungu's work came at 122...Johnson's at 126. Johnson was not clearly over matched from start to finish the way Bungu was. He won maybe a round or two more than Bungu lol. I'm not laughing like it is a conversation between us because I don't respect your boxing opinion. I don't mean to be negative, but I just don't lol! Anyway, Bungu never had a chance against Hamed. Johnson at his age was looking good up until he fought Hamed. What you said about Bungu, and who he last lost to has nothing to do with nothing. Norwood was not even ranked pfp yet, nor was he a champion. Bungu beating McKinney and Johnson beating Medina does not decide anything here buddy. Medina probably beats McKinney at 126 because Medina would not go down to 122 and fight McKinney. This is my opinion of course.

    Now you asked..."has it ever crossed my mind". Didn't you mean "Did it ever cross my mind" Johnny English? You might think that the McKinney fight was a better win for Bungu than Johnson beating Medina, but that is splitting hairs when you check both fighters resumes during their defenses up until they lost. Both had a good number of defenses only Johnson's was at 126 while Bungu's was 122. I saw both fights and remember them clear as day. Hamed beating Bungu was more of a "yeah, the Soto fight was so ugly Hamed needed this win over Bungu who at the time was considered safe and not a threat... while the Johnson fight was Hamed showing us he could beat a world class boxer with his unorthodox skills.

    Now this is exlaxation at the highest level:lol:.

    Oh, and this:
    Augie Sanchez did give Naz a better fight than Bungu, but how does that mean it was a better win?? Robin Reid gave Joe Calzaghe a better fight than Jeff Lacy, does that mean it was a better win?? Owned, for about the 5000th time.

    You can't get anymore ignorant than this simpleton thought lol...
     
  14. NALLEGE

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    I agree that the Kelley win was bigger than the Bungu win. You can't even compare career stats because the Hamed-Bungu fight was so one sided. You should've seen the poll PAcfan84 did on Calzaghe versus Kermit the Frog. PAcfan84 asked who had more skills Kerm or Cal? In the poll...Kerm was winning by a land slide. PAc fans came out of the woodworks. Kerm has the better jab, Kerm has more skills, Kerm punches harder, and Kerm even had the funnier laugh between the two:good
     
  15. JAHamilton77

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    Not shot, but he was coming off a year layoff and Hamed was his first fight at a new weight.

    Still a great win/performance.