Was Wladimir Klitschko the Best at the "Tall Style"?

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  1. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’ve been watching some of Wladimir Klitschko’s fights recently, and one thing that really stood out to me is how exceptional he was at executing what’s often referred to as the "tall style." By this, I mean his ability to keep opponents at range with jabs and straight right hands while effectively shutting them down when they tried to close the distance.

    Under Emanuel Steward, Wlad seemed to perfect this style, becoming a master at controlling range and maintaining distance. His footwork, jab, and clinching when opponents got too close made it incredibly difficult for most fighters to have sustained success against him.

    When I compare him to Lennox Lewis, who also adopted a similar approach under Steward, I feel like Lennox wasn’t as consistent at keeping opponents at bay. Fighters like Holyfield, Mercer, and Rahman were able to close the distance and land significant shots on him. However, Lennox made up for it with his superior ability to fight on the inside, something Wlad never truly excelled at.

    That being said, I still feel Wlad was better at mastering this particular "tall style." His control of range, discipline in sticking to the game plan, and ability to shut opponents down with clinches and his jab-right hand combo seem unparalleled.

    So, my question to the forum: Do you think Wladimir Klitschko was the best at this style, or was there another fighter who executed it better?
     
  2. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, kinda by default.

    Lennox was a more rounded fighter who could rely more on things like timing and even give up big man advantages while still being effective with his technique.

    Wlad's entire style is ams style. Manny didn't hide that. Stay tall, stay long, clinch on the inside, because Wlad gets himself KTFO when he tries to go toe-to-toe with a half decent inside or even mid range fighter.

    I don't think one is inherently better but heaps do. You can be a specialist and be great. Wlad's kinda like Marciano with his one sided approach but like Marciano that didn't stop him from knocking fools out.


    I'd favor Lennox on toughness not skill. If Lennox didn't tak him seriously Wlad might KO him, at range of course.
     
  3. USFBulls727

    USFBulls727 Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed. Wlad was excellent at shutting down shorter opponents for the reasons that you mentioned, and I can't think of anybody who was better at it.
     
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  4. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    jack johnson was better. different tactics. smaller opponents but smaller man.

    wlad very good too, if u ask me who is best at controlling and easily beating smaller fighters johnson is my answer.
     
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  5. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’m not sure I necessarily agree with that. From what I’ve seen of Jack Johnson, his approach seemed to rely heavily on wrestling and clinching rather than using a jab to control range. Admittedly, I haven’t watched as much of his fights as I have Wlad’s, but I’ve never gotten the impression that Johnson fought in a "tall" style in the same way Wlad did. Johnson’s tactics seemed more focused on close-quarters control rather than maintaining distance. That said, I’m open to being corrected if there’s something I’ve missed in his style.
     
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  6. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he used his weight and the clinch sure. don't say wlad never clinched.
     
  7. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes.
    Lewis was a better fighter all round, but Wlad was more adapted to fighting shorter, lighter men, by jabbing, not taking many risks, putting the lead hand in their face and grabbing when up close.
    Lewis also was great at boxing shorter men, especially post-Mercer, but didn’t clinch as much as Wlad, which I guess may just mean he’s a more legitimate fighter rather than, as some may see it with Wlad, conning his way through fights, you could make that argument.
    Lewis was definitely better at fighting guys his own height or weight, since he didn’t rely on clinching when up close, as we seen against Mercer, Briggs etc when he fought guys that could match him for strength, he could work there, and also he didn’t rely on keeping the fight at arms length, as we saw against Wlad’s brother Vitali.
    Klitschko was the most well adapted to fighting shorter lighter men, but Lewis was better against guys who were either his own height, or even against shorter guys who were the same weight.
    Conclusion: Who was the best at fighting shorter guys in general? Lennox Lewis, but Wlad was better at fighting shorter, lighter guys.
     
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  8. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, Manny perfected his control range style. of course the inferiority of his opponents aided that as well but it doesn't take away from the style he mastered. He's a perfect example of a trainer vastly improving a fighter. Kinda rare really
     
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  9. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree with much of what you said about comparing Lewis and Klitschko in terms of style. However, I’d like to point out that Wlad actually has more wins against opponents who outweighed him than Lewis does. So, I wouldn’t necessarily say he was better specifically at fighting lighter men, as he demonstrated success against both lighter and heavier opponents.
     
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  10. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In absolute terms, probably.

    From a p4p perspective, Monzon was arguably the greatest exponent, even though his multi faceted skillset meant he was more versatile than Wlad.
     
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  11. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's a good pick Monzon was a weird guy but a great boxer! Anyone else you can think of?
     
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  12. Seamus

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    As the years pass like the sands through the hourglass, Wlad inches closer to the top spot in all time heavyweight rankings. It's called perspective.
     
  13. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    wlad was good at beating physically mismatched opponents? woooooooooooooooo
     
  14. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It depends how you define the "tall style".

    Panama Al Brown was freakishly tall for a BW at around 5ft 11ins. He didn't fight out of a crouch and certainly utilised his huge advantages in height and reach, but I suspect he was a bit more flashy and versatile than the - jab, jab, jab, straight right, clinch - methodical style that you may be referring to when you cited Wlad -
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    Either way, as great as Brown was, Monzon was greater, so he remains my answer to this thread, from a p4p perspective. Wlad from an absolute perspective.
     
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  15. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Tunney’s performance against Gibbons is one of my favourite examples of a height advantage being used effectively. Excellent management of distance, using the jab to open Gibbons up for those ripping counters. Fury’s second fight against Chisora is another good example of taking advantage of your height and reach.
     
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