Was Wladimir Klitschko the Best at the "Tall Style"?

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  1. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Again, it’s part of the game. Wlad’s opponents knew exactly what to expect, and it was on them to prepare and find a way to deal with it, just as other greats have done when facing similar styles. For example, Usyk managed to handle a bigger, clinch-heavy fighter like Fury by being able to frame him and push him off in the clinch. If Wlad’s approach was so insurmountable, it speaks to his effectiveness in executing it and his opponents’ inability to counter it.
     
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  2. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I understand if you’re not a fan of Wlad's style, it’s not for everyone. However, my issue lies more with the double standard where Wlad is criticized for his approach, yet other fighters like Ali, Ward, and Hopkins often get a pass for using similar tactics. It feels inconsistent. In fact, in some cases, Ward and Hopkins were just as guilty of even rougher tactics, like using their heads or low blows, which I’d argue are worse than just clinching. Overall I would say it’s important to be consistent when evaluating and criticizing all fighters’ tactics especially when they rely on things that can be considered either a grey area or straight up getting away with breaking the rules.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    It's easier to enforce an advantage against an opponent in his final of a long career fighting a full classic division over his natural weight.

    Tunney's appeal is largely based on his surviving footage being against depleted opposition.
     
  4. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    It’s still a good display of a height advantage being used effectively, he looked like a taller, longer version of Gibbons in that fight.

    Gibbons was obviously past his peak but is there any contemporary reporting that says he was washed? He looked great against Jack Bloomfield in the footage less than a year before the Tunney fight and, while not a first rate fighter, Bloomfield did arguably have wins over McTigue by some reports and also looked competent on film
     
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  5. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good thread. I put a lot of "like"s on this one.

    I even got to see a highlight video of Panama Al Brown.
     
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  6. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Appreciate the kind words!
     
  7. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wlad's clinching is overstated bar the Povetkin fight. That one was pretty bad Wlad should have had points docked way earlier even though he probably would have won anyway it would have been more competitive. Haye was literally throwing himself to the ground mentioning that one doesn't fly.
     
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    For sure watching his other fights he really didn't clinch more then most other boxers similar to him the Povetkin fight is really the only bad one.
     
  9. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Carlos Monzon was the best…at the tall style …that’s really what makes Monzon great …he knows how to use his height and reach
     
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    I thought Vitali was better at using his height and reach.
     
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    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah Vitali is also a good shout as well
     
  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Well ifs its such a big part of his game then he can't be the best example of tall fighter who used range.
    The tape shows he was more of a grappler , clincher , hugger than a distance controller.

    Plus as mentioned , Vitali was better at controlled distance. Vitali pounded Peter from a distance. Wlad was draped all over Peters back in both fights.
    Arroela also never got anywhere near Vitali. Arroela vs Wlad would be another clinch fest.
     
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  13. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    they're all tall fighting giants,

    I don't see very many of them employing more than Basic Upright Boxing, very few of them, very few of them show much versatility and the good majority of them are Maulers & Huggers.

    it is so painful to watch MOST of the time, only to be made worse by the many people trying to pass it off as great boxing & fighters.

    It's NOT and it is neither harmful nor a crime to call as such.

    it'll take another Lenox Lewis type fighter to justify the division, but sadly he'd be the only one if one even does come around. Where as the truth is, to truly justify the Division, you need a good 2 or 3 Dozen of them and that is NEVER Going to Happen.

    Super - Heavyweight IS Subpar...

    and big normal sized Usyk, in the pantheon of normal sized Heavyweights, is just that, NORMAL!
     
  14. themaster458

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    Ali clinches just as much as Wlad btw and pretty much relied on clinching to beat Foreman and Frazier in the second fight but something tells me you're much less critical of him for his clinching........
     
  15. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Nobody asked if Ali was the best at fighting tall.
    The thread asks if Wlad was and he obviously isn't because he was a notorious for illegal cinching.