Watched Jones vs Hopkins (I) again, Roy Was A Beast!

KO'd. Haye was a natural HW and had the raw atheltic talent to compete with prime Jones.

 

:good

Just as Khan is a poor mans Manny..... a very, very poor mans Manny

 

how the hell is Khan anything like Manny? their styles couldn't be more different

 

Hopkins is a wise con-man criminal like Lex Luthor. Roy was Superman. Where Roy goes, the Sun shines and he rules. When Superman left the MW division to go and explore other divisions...Bernard-Luthor stayed behind an unprotected division where he knew he could rule over with the skies clear of Superman. Superman went on to bigger and better things flying high and fighting off bigger villains. Well until someone poured Kryptonite on him and then he was never the same. And then enters Bernard-Luthor.

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Jorge Fernando Castro, Virgil Hill, Montell Griffin weren't exactly stiffs either. But a Dariusz Michalzewski would have looked good on Roys record, that's for sure..

 

haha, nice post. But I rate Hopkins higher than Roy because of his longevity. Prime for prime, Roy is the better man. But B-Hop has the better career. Roys style is very dependent on his athleticism (though he had very good unorthodox skills too), but B-Hop has better fundamental skills and more of a boxing brain.

 

What i meant by that comment is Amir often imitates Manny in the ring e.g. tapping of the gloves, throwing punches in bunches, laying on the ropes for a break but in turn getting uppercuts.

Both fighters like to be the agressors in fights and have glaring defensive flaws (this is more evident with Khan though). Pac is more fluid imo than Khan - he doesn't use his jab but instead his left hand leads and lateral movement. Khan i think unnescarially moves - he doesn't sit on his punches and that's why most of his opponents don't feel his power. Khan tends to clinch when in the inside and Pac counters and pivots like a bad ass. I also think Khan is more robotic whereas, Manny sometimes uses his own brain in the ring.

That said both Manny's and Amir's performances haven't been pleasing to watch; wonder what Timid Timmy and Lamont will bring to them?

 

:smoke ROY at his best was an AWESOME fighter .

 

I agree with some of your post; that I have highlighted. But I tend to disagree with what follows. I have heard many stories from people/fans/critics who have met Roy; they always tell me what a brilliant boxing mind Roy has; historically, fundamentally and businesswise.

More stories in my RJJ super thread

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=364205

 

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RJJ was the most naturally gifted and skillful boxer-puncher in recent and modern history. Only SRL's flurries of speed and power for instance out of the ropes against Marvin Hagler in the 1987 Superfight can be compared with the display of flashy, combo punching, natural power and boxing skills Roy showed against good opponents such as Tate (Ko in 2), and a very commited and fundamentally sound and aggressive opponent who was actually the number one rated IBF MW in that Washington DC. vacant IBF MW Title fight after James Toney vacated it. It was just incredible to see him flurry with double, triple hooks to the body and head and unleash sneaking ultra-fast right hands and lead left hooks in that fight back in 1993 in the undercard of Bowe-Fergunson for the HWT Championship. Roy absolutely outboxed, outpunched and outhough Toney as well and he beat several good LHWTs- remember Montel Griffin beat Toney in that division and costed a disq against Jones. Of course in the rematch he was demolished in less than 3 minutes. Jones also beat Mike McCallum who took the WBC title from Jeff Harding from Australia and who had a trilogy of hard fights against British Dennies Andries but who fought out of the Kronk Gym in Detyroit, Mich., and he also knocked out Virgil Hill with a fantastic body shot and remember Hill was undefeated and was the only man to have dethroned and beat long time undefeated german World Champ Henry Maske. He had all the major comissions LHWT titles b4 he stepped up to HWT and also had fought and destroyed good SMW contenders like Tony Thornton, Sugar Boy Malinga in the short time he defended the title James Toney won from Iran Brakley. The rest is history and meaningless in my opinion.

 

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I feel bad for you if you actually believe that.

 

to someone who doesnt watch much boxing.