Watched May/Mosley and Pac/Cotto Today....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PBA, Dec 4, 2010.


  1. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    "Floyd is a coward", really, I don't recall him walking away from a $40 million dollar fight because he's afraid of needles/drug tests. Pac choose to walk from this fight not PBF, you focus on PBF being on vacation and whatever as some vindication or triumph, but the bottom line is this fight could have been made in place of PBF vs. SSM had Pac and Top Rank not walked from negotiations over drug testing. PBF conceeded to all of Pac's demands regarding ring size, gloves, weight penalty, etc. The second round of negotiations, if you can call them that, PBF wasn't actively involved with and following the SSM fight he made it clear, that if Pac wanted to fight him, testing possibility up to the fight period. This has continued to be something that Pac's team struggles with for whatever reason, and remains as it stands the only reason this fight hasn't happened. I see nothing cowardly about the man asking his opponent to remain transparant, and forthcoming in terms of ensuring fairness in a fight with the kind of significance this one has. In terms of being "cowardly" you also fail to recognize that during the first negotiations, Top Rank was steadfast in not going inside a 30 day window from the fight for testing, then were caught being dishonest via 24/7 then agreed to 24 days, but were reluctant to move any closer. So they went through full negotiations, went to the length of getting a mediator to facilitate and wouldn't agree to 14 days (again this during legitimate, fully engaged, intense negotiations), yet as it stands today according to some they have agreed to "anything PBF wants" even though there have been no events or circumstances to validate such a drastic change in position. The "out" or "reason" why the position has changed revolves around the "negotiation" process, in which one could argue there have been no REAL negotiations since the first, and if there have been they were minimal and there was little interaction with PBF? That being said, Team Pac changed their position from 20+ days to up to the fight, during a one sided negotiation with essentially fringe advisors to PBF's camp, yet wouldn't yield to even 14 days during a letitimate negotiation that went to the lengths of bringing in a mediator etc? I don't believe that, and I think it's laughable for anyone to believe that. There is nothing I've posted here that is "interpretation", these are facts that are reasonably undisputed by anyone. Bottom line, PBF isn't a coward and your assessment demonstrates an overall lack of boxing knowledge and an ignorance to the situation at hand.
     
  2. BOXING/MMAFAN

    BOXING/MMAFAN The Fan Full Member

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    Floyds punch resistance is suspect???? how many people honestly believe Pac hits harder than Shane i mean seriously?!???
     
  3. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Margarito ate Pacs punches and was never dropped and seriously hurt only twice. And they were Pac's best shots some with everything on them. Margarito was literally battered around the ring by Shane's punches. That body shot in the 4th hurt Margarito in the Pac fight but Shane hurt that mother****er in round one with a right hand to the body that put the brakes on anything Margarito had planned that night. Pac gets hit and hurt all the time its just a shock that Mayweather actually got hit with and hurt(its a boxing match against a puncher) in a fight. He shut Shane **** down in that same very round and dominated and whooped his ass for the rest of the fight. Pac looks good against guys that just stand there or come right to him in his firing range. Mayweather is the last fighter on planet earth that stays in the same spot too long or gets hit with the same punch twice. Pac throws the same combos over and over and over. Its hard to get away if you are slow and you cant box backing up. But Floyd is the best at both not getting hit and fighting off the back foot. Its just plain simple facts.
     
  4. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Who's the faster person Manny has fought. How many slick fighters has Manny fought. How many fighters with lateral movement has many fought. Go look at Floyd's resume and tell me how many different styles you see. This is obvious to me
     
  5. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    It's nothing but ones and twos in his combos.
     
  6. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    :lol: Judah won 3 rounds and was in danger of being stopped so he had to punch floyd in the nuts.

    Hatton was schooled and KTFO.

    So much for floyd having trouble
     
  7. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    about the best argument you will get is "vacation" or "urge"

    *******s dont wanna get involved in this type of debate..

    They know pac got 0 answer for the overhand right coming over the top of that short a$$ jab that pac throws....
     
  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    negative on that....never been down...he has a very good chin and it is more than proven

    that is your opinion backed by pretty much nothing..

    Pac's body is much more proven to be "suspect" over floyd..
     
  9. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No fighter in this era has the skills to beat floyd
     
  10. difO

    difO Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lmao who gives a ****? itll be a great fight and we want to see it. just because floyd wins on an e-forum doesnt mean we dont want to see the fight
     
  11. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    everyone wants to see the fight :)
     
  12. horst

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    As usual, my crystalline logic has struck fear into the hearts of the *****s and sent them running for cover. :smoke
     
  13. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    No, they just think you're annoying. You'll have to wait for gooners!! to come on, so you can have someone to talk to.
     
  14. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    actually a lot of what you said is just opinon really..nothing u said really makes much of a "threat".

    and pac's short jab will be the end of him too...floyd pull counter with that short jab pac got, would be too much:hat
     
  15. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    This logic is wack. Pac beat the people Mayweather beat like 2 years later. Pac doesn't have the skills that Mayweather have. Pac is good at what he does, but he lack the skills Mayweather has.