Beterbiev never won Round 12, you silly troll. You are as bad as your prediction. Bivol outlanded him in Round 12, especially in high impact punches. Beterbiev landed on Bivol gloves. And fights are not scored only on Round 10-12. Bivol won prolly 7-8 rounds from the first 10. So even if Beterbiev has won the last 3 rounds, he still lost. This content is protected
I would like to know which 6/7 rounds do people gave to Bivol? I mean I can picture 6-3 I guess but to me I had bivol 5-4 up and Beterbiev taking the last 3. 12 was the closest of the last 3 but I think Beterbiev won it.
Not scored it round by round, but after the first 6 i had it 5-1 or at worst 4-2. Bivol then clearly won 7,8,9, and Beterbiev won 10 and 11. Bivol clearly won 12 as well. This was on my first watch, and this confirmed it: This content is protected This is from Jabbr AI staff, as he replied to me:
How can people watch a fight without sound ? I've never understood that mentality honestly. As @HEADBANGER said Beterbiev won the last 3 rounds and all 3 judges gave Beterbiev the last 3 rounds so as he said you must of had Bivol 7-2 up which seems a bit out there for me. I personally had Bivol 6-3 in front after 9 rounds with Beterbiev winning the last 3 making it a draw on my card. But it's not out of the realms I possibly could've had it closer at that point it's not like Bivol was dominating the first 9 rounds although he did box well.
You keep quoting these stats but it's irrelevant judges don't have stats they're watching a fight in real time with different views/angles. The stats are nice to have after the fact so we the fans can have a conversation about it and the stats do show a very competitive fight. But in the grand scheme of things they're worthless because fights are not scored on punchstats. And you keep forcing your opinion on everyone that doesn't necessarily agree with you isn't the way to go about it. The fact is all 3 judges scored the last 3 rounds for Beterbiev as did alot of the members here scoring the fight. Bivol had a clear edge early on but Beterbiev rallied in the championship rounds and made a big impression in those rounds and won a close decision end of. Debatable fight with both fighters having an argument to winning the fight ? Absolutely. But neither fighter "clearly won". The only thing I thought was controversial was the 116-112 card but then again how we do improve on scoring the fights ? Maybe more judges ? I have no idea.
I just watched with sound but no visual. Bivol lost big time, has a really tiny ***** too. Good Lord close fights make everyone simultaneously a scoring expert and a massive ****** all at once, don't they?
Well then i don't know why we even have judges at first place? Firstly most of them need to be replaced with a lot younger people, as most judges/refs in Boxing are old ***** and they clearly have eye problems. The reason why i'm giving stats and AI here is because they show exactly what i was seeing on the TV, and judges should even have a better view than me. Absolutely the same thing for Usyk - Fury fight, and the stats and scoring provided by the DeepStrike. At best i was 1-2 rounds off. And again stats are to back off what anyone said, and shows that you are unbiased. Otherwise what is the point ? I can claim one thing, you another, which could be completely deluded from the reality and we can argue till eternity that way. Stats are given to backup what ME have seen, and how boxing is scored. Again this is Boxing, where you are support to hit and not get hit, and this was a masterclass performance from Bivol on the theme Boxing. If we going to ignore a one guy perfect defense and blocked punches, and just reward someone going forward and getting countered and barely landing anything clean, what the heck is that sport? Everyone then should just fight 1 way, and that's it. Good that you score the fight for Beterbiev, but no way in hell he won Round 12. Outlanded heavily in that round, especially in Clean hard punches. Punching someone gloves all night, doesn't win you rounds. And Rounds 10-12 are 3 rounds, not the whole fight, they don't influence the rest of the fight or scoring, as judges are scoring Round by Round. Beterbiev may have won all Round 8, 9 10, 11 and 12, and still lost the fight, based on Bivol winning every previous round for example. Best case scenario for Beterbiev after Round 6 is 4-2. I had it 5-1. 7,8,9 are clear Bivol Rounds. Round 12 clear Bivol Round. Bivol clearly robbed of 8-4, and at very worst 7-5. Again this is Boxing, not hitting someone gloves for 12 round. Your boy clearly knew he lost. You don't need to be expert in body language to see both fighters reaction and who though he won the fight: This content is protected Look at their corners as well.
No commentary. I'll watch top rank replays with Tim Bradley's voice muted any day The commentators influence the viewer too much with their own narratives.
Fighters are moving constantly all over the ring so judges don't always have the best view. As I said they're scoring a fight in real time and have to keep perfect concentration not looking at their phone not being distracted by anything and trying catch every little detail. As I said punchstats are worthless because that's not how boxing is scored they're only useful for us boxing fans to have a conversation about they're not used as a criteria for scoring fights. I never scored the fight for Beterbiev i had it a draw and he certainly isn't "my boy". If you look at the RBR thread prior to the fight i said "I don't care who wins aslong as we get a great fight" so I wasn't emotionally invested in either fighter none of them are my favourite fighters I just watched it as a boxing fan because it was a big fight. You're saying stuff like "no way Beterbiev won the 12th round" and you're stating your opinion as a fact when it isn't. The only fact is all 3 judges scored the last 3 rounds for Beterbiev so he must of done something right to make such an impression on all 3 judges. Stop forcing your opinion on everyone and stop stating your opinion as fact when it isn't. You personally had Bivol winning the fight and that's your opinion which your entitled to. But you don't need to keep stating your opinion as fact when it isn't you just have a different view on how you see the fight.