Watching Pac-DLH again makes me believe...

The only thing I clearly saw was that Manny was alot faster than this version of Oscar who has been around the past 3-4 years

 

and its inconvenient for you to admit that Pacquiaos biggest fights other than Marquez were a product of good match making, they picked Barrera Morales and De La Hoya because those guys were all done~ Roach has even admitted that to Erik after he beat Manny in the first fight.

"Sorry Erik we under estemated you we thought you were all done we wont make that mistake again" Roach~ :deal

 

:good Good point Enzo

 

He looks soft.

 

Nacho is in charge of the training camp. If Oscar comes in weight drained then the training camp has failed. And if the training camp has failied then the man who ran the training camp has failed also. Understand?

 

well, barrera certainly was at his prime in 2003. if you consider morales being done, then the same could be said about tzuyu and castillo when hatton fought them.

 

wtf! they picked those guys because they are the fights that would give pacquiao the biggest money. so who should pac have fought in place of those guys mr. match-making expert?

 

The best one was " Oscar can't pull the trigger anymore. He's done.":rofl

Roach was right

 

I fail to see any connection between Hatton-Paulie and Hatton-Pac. Paulie Malignaggi was standing straight up square on like a statue and allowing Hatton to throw first, and allowing telegraphed shots to bounce right off his skull. That is one thing that has ZERO chance of happening against someone with the head movement and footwork of the current version of Pacquiao.

I think this is a 50-50 fight and I can easily understand why someone would think Ricky will win, but the Hatton-Paulie fight has no connection whatsoever to how Hatton-Pac will go.

 

Oscar has been past prime for years. He has been on the slide since 2004, and his absolute prime was in the mid-to-late 1990's!

And he wasn't the middleweight champ, he was a lucky belt holder.

The only debate about the Pacquaio fight should be "was Oscar just badly faded, or was he totally shot to ****?"

 

There's not a shadow of a doubt in my mind that the Oscar who fought Quartey in '99 would have KO'd Manny at welterweight, not even a shadow of a doubt.

But that's a side issue.

To all those who give Pacquiao ZERO credit for the Oscar win and say Oscar was a corpse, I'd like to mention just one fact.

In Oscar's last fight before Manny, he weighed only 3lbs more. Three ****ing pounds. Was he a corpse that night?

The way that Oscar v Manny went down was every bit as much to do with Pacquiao's speed and movement than it was to do with Oscar being weight-drained.

Had Oscar been fighting another Steve Forbes calibre fighter, he would have won comfortably.

 

Tszyu that had just destroyed the NO 1. contender Shambra Mitchell inside 3 rounds, he was the lineal champ, the heavy favourite and the P4P #3 going into the fight with Hatton. He wasn't anything like "done".

 

we all know that oscar was past his prime well before the pac fight. it's just to convenient for you guys to emphasize that he is "too shot" in the pac fight because of what happened to him. steve forbes basically fought almost the same oscar, just a couple of pounds heavier. he looked **** but still got the win. even if the fight happened at 154, pac would still win against that past-prime version of oscar.

 

Has there ever been another fight in history where a guy was so widely written off before, and given so little credit after??

I doubt it.