WBA Heavyweight Tournament?

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The WBA has announced a bizarre heavyweight tournament.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...nked-No-9-WBA-comeback-victory-Mark-Mori.html

    On one half of the bracket, the first quarterfinal will feature the actual WBA heavyweight champion (as well as the WBO champion) Tyson Fury against Wladimir Klitschko in their rematch.

    The winner of Fury-Klitschko will then have to face the winner of the WBA "Interim" title fight between Luis Ortiz-Alexander Ustinov in the other quarterfinal.


    The "bizarre" part is the other half of the bracket.

    On that side, the quarterfinal will feature Ruslan Chagaev against Lucas Browne for the WBA "Regular" title ... and the winner of that will have to face FRES OQUENDO, who apparently gets a PASS to the semifinal round.

    So the WBA's actual champ Tyson Fury has the toughest draw ... to get to the final he'll have to beat Wlad Klitschko again and likely Luis Ortiz.

    Meanwhile, Fres Oquendo gets a pass to the semifinal. :roll::nut

    Here's an image of the bracket itself.

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/01/19/11/30554F9500000578-3406292-image-a-44_1453204247477.jpg

    So, it looks like if he wants to keep his WBA belt, Tyson Fury will have to spend the next two years fighting Wlad, the Ortiz-Ustinov winner, and either Fres Oquendo, Lucas Browne or Ruslan Chagaev.

    And any WBO mandatories and any unifications will have to go on the back burner.

    And, if Fury decides to play along ... they'll just name a new "regular and "interim" champ as soon as the tournament is over.

    The sanctioning bodies ARE A NIGHTMARE.
     
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  2. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Browne and Oquendo are unnecessary here. WBA should just order Chagaev vs Ortiz and mandate the Fury/Wlad to fight the winner.
     
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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. Since the "regular" champ and "interim" champs in their ratings were supposed to represent their top two contenders.

    But that would just be too simple.
     
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  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Oquendo is one of these WBA carousel fringe guys, has fought Ruiz, Holyfield, Chag, all the main players from 00's except Valuev and Haye. He's tough but firmly B class.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

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    Plus he never beat any of those guys. He's 42. He's recovering from major shoulder surgery. And he hasn't fought in close to two years.

    But other than that ... :roll:
     
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  6. beachie17

    beachie17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like the principal but the way they have gone about it is just so wrong. Fury as the champion should be the one waiting to fight the winner of the tournament in my opinion. Why the worst fighter in the whole thing gets the greatest advantage overall is just bizarre, they could have had Fury vs Klitschko to see who defends against the tournament winner.
     
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  7. Brighton bomber

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    Interesting looking at the set up of the tournament it only ties up the super and regular titles for this year. Fury can face Wlad and then the winner of Ortiz/Ustinov this year and Chagaev/Browne winner can face Oquendo later in the year.

    Also once this has all played out the regular title will be vacated at the end of the year of early next year when the regular champion fights the super champion.

    In relation to how that effects Haye as he is mentioned in the article he could spend 2016 getting easy wins and raising his WBA ranking for a vacant title shot in 2017. Briggs is ranked 4th I believe by the WBA, as faded as Haye maybe he'd still be too much for an even more faded Briggs, Tarver could also be another easy win to boost his ranking.
     
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  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Fres Oquendo aint had a fight in 18 months, how the hell is he ranked nr 6 by the WBA?
     
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  9. NakiFan

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    Most of these matchups are already in place.

    Fury v. Klit- already sorted
    Browne v. Chageav- already sorted
    Ortiz v. Ustinov- just announced recently.

    I like this concept because at least the WBA is creating fights, and creating fights within the top 10 of their rankings... apart from their strange 3 tier title holders, this way is probably the best way to put these fights together.

    AS FANS, WHAT IS NOT TO LIKE?
     
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  10. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have a feeling Ustinov will beat Kong...

    probably a UD12...

    then if Fury can beat Waldo again...

    he'll have to face the guy he Ducked!!!

    :deal :lol:

    but I bet Waldo KO's Fury in the rematch!!

    :dead
     
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  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How much time do you have?

    That Tyson Fury will be stripped if he doesn't fight Klitschko, Luis Ortiz and the winner of Fres Oquendo, Browne or Chagaev over the next year and half.

    That Tyson Fury will stay in this, not unify for the next two years, and, when the "tournament" is over ... the WBA just names another "regular" and "interim" champ like nothing had happened.

    That the WBO will strip Tyson Fury, because he's waiting for a 40-ish Fres Oquendo to survive a training camp and fight him for THREE WBA BELTS? Not all the belts ... three WBA belts.

    That one of the most exciting guys in the heavyweight division (Fury) will be fighting Fres Oquendo, or Ruslan Chagaev or Lucas Browne ... when he could be fighting Anthony Joshua, David Haye, and Deontay Wilder.

    That the WBA will strip Fury (like the IBF did) and idiots like Glazkov and Oquendo fight for belts and muddy up the division.

    That one organization can have so many "world" titles in the SAME division that it can hold a tournament to crown "one" winner ... when they should only have ONE to begin with.

    I could go on and on.
     
    Dubblechin, Jan 19, 2016
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  12. NakiFan

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    So basically, the belt will be vacated regardless? This is probably what I'm picking anyway, I just didn't want to mention that. If the whole thing falls over, it'll give the guys up there in the WBA a bit of time to think, what can be done better? And the eternal optimist in me will hope, things change for the better, and allow chances to regularly have a unified champ over all alphabets.

    In terms of alphabets: This is my take.

    1 is lonely
    2 is nice
    3 is a crowd
    4 is a f*ckn mess
     
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  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Oquendo feels he was robbed against Chagaev. :yep
     
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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'm not sure what's sillier...Oquendo's bye into the semis or Ustinov even being in the quarterfinals to start out with.
     
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  15. theanatolian

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    I'm surprised they didn't squeeze Shannon Briggs in there. :lol:
     
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