WBA HW Title-Biggest joke in boxing?

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  1. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    Having just heard that Valuev and Chagaev will rematch each other, with (drumroll) John huggy bear Ruiz as the mandatory, I find myself both disgusted and apathetic


    Is there a belt in boxing that is currently anymore meaningless than the WBA Heavy Weight belt?

    A time line of the last decade of the WBA HW title

    WBA strips Lennox Lewis of the title for refusing to fight John Ruiz

    2000-title is held by Evander Holyfield and is defended ZERO times

    2001-2003-Title is then held by John Ruiz defended twice, being lost to

    2003-Roy Jones Junior, who beats the most atrocious HW "Champion" in history and wins the meaningless belt

    2004-RJJ moves back down to 175, title is again held by John Ruiz

    2004-2005-Ruiz makes 2 defenses loses title to

    2005-Nikolai Valuev who holds the title until

    2007-When he loses to Ruslan Chagaev

    2008-Who is declared Champion in recess and the "Ordinary" title given to Valuev again
     
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  2. pijo

    pijo Feed the Pope Full Member

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    Yep, it's a ****in' joke. The whole organisation is a joke. An ordinary world champ and a super world champ, what the **** is that about.
     
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  3. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    As more evidence, the WBA Top 3 HWs have consisted of John Ruiz, Nikolai Valuev, and Ruslan Chagaev rotating spots for the last 3 years

    Ruiz and Valuev have fought twice

    Ruiz has Valuev also

    Valuev and Chagaev are not rematching eachother

    and the winner shall again fight Ruiz

    the title has done this

    Ruiz>Valuev>Chagaev>Valeuv-Chagaev>winner faces Ruiz again
     
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  4. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    More evidence, the WBA currently has

    an Interim Heavyweight title

    a champion in recess title

    An Ordinary Title

    and a supposed "Super Champion title" should there ever be unification

    You want to know the most ****ed up part?

    These titles could all theoretically exist at the same

    As of right now, there are only 2
     
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  5. JL Fighter

    JL Fighter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    From their website, this idea came from Lennox Lewis. Is there any truth to that?
     
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  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Look at the guys Kessler fought to win his vacant WBA title.

    Khan suddenly gets a shot at Kotelnik's WBA title having done precisely nothing at 140lbs.

    This title has no credibility in any weight class.
     
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  7. FromWithin

    FromWithin Living for the city Full Member

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  8. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    Valuev-"You WILL smell my armpit!"

    Ruiz-"NO!, No I will NOT!"
     
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  9. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    another one to add to that lis is Linares fighting for the vant WBA 130 pound title in his first fight in that division against a guy that was koed in the first round by Valero it doesnt get much worse than that.
     
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  10. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Also worth mentioning, there's a chance that by the time the WBA concludes their investigation on Hoy-Valuev, Evander will likely get ANOTHER title shot.
     
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  11. pijo

    pijo Feed the Pope Full Member

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    Dunno, first I've heard of that.

    It's bad enough having four "major" organisations but then for the individual organisations to have separate belts in the same division is just mind blowing.
     
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  12. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    Oh sweet jesus

    the WBA Title is gonna do this then

    Chagaev-Valuev->Ruiz- >Evander

    This is like a ****ing carousel ride with this ****. Whoever is in charge of the WBA needs to have a gun put to the head and have their brains blown out all over their desk.

    The IBO title has more merit than the ****ing WBA
     
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  13. FromWithin

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  14. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm of the firm belief that hell is run by the same people who run the WBO and WBA.

    And the only thing on TV in hell is Cory Spinks and John Ruiz fights.
     
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  15. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    I used to think it was bad that 4 guys can claim to be the champion in any given weight-class - but when 4 guys can claim to be the WBA champion in any given weight-class ... I'm not really sure what to say to that.
     
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