WBA orders Joshua vs Povetkin

No more ducking Joshua

 

Not quite a dead cert, but pretty damn close. Usyk can still mount a challenge for that accolade IMO. Briedis and Gassiev to become undisputed and then hopefully a top 5-10 HW at the end of the year is arguably a better 12 months.

The sad thing is even if Joshua did beat three top five fighters and become undisputed; the usual suspects would still find a way to fit in their morning routine of mental gymnastics and let their overzealous bitterness discredit and demean him. "B-b-but he ducked 46 year old Vitali's Youtube challenge" or "B-b-but Parker was robbed and I'm too arrogant to care about what the rest of the world (including Parker/Barry/Higgins) says". It's honestly pathetic that grown-arse men can let hatred obstruct their objectivity to such an alarming degree.

I don't like Wilder. The first six defenses of his reign were a mockery of the entire division's history and his frequent, delusional outbursts about beating ATGs are incredibly off-putting, but FFS you can bet your bottom dollar I was right there to give him his due credit when he stepped up and beat Ortiz.

 

Don't think Pov has the attributes to get in on AJ anymore, maybe 5 years ago and a **** ton of peds in his system sure, but not now.

But in answer to your point: No, I think no HW could take that. But then again I don't expect AJ to put his hands down a la Price did.

 

You said exactly the same thing about PArker haha

 

Fair play to Joshua if this happens. As a champ he has taken the tough fights rather consistently.
I know alot of fans on here go on about the Wilder fight. In the next post they will tell you how titles and an undefeated record doesnt mean a thing and then get all hyped again when you have 2 undefeated records but I think this like Parker is a tougher fight

 

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Due to styles I think Povetkin has the possibility to pull off the win.
I would say Joshua has to be favoured but wouldnt think of it as a sure thing.

Wladimir used alot of holding where he was far bigger than Povetkin and it didnt allow Povetkin to get off with his combinations whereas Joshua doesnt seem to hold and goes to war more, which I think would make it tougher for him than Klitschko.
Its a styles thing

Povetkin is getting older now so Joshua would be favourite but I wouldnt count Povetkin out.

Same with Wilder who I think could also be troubled by Povetkin.
I think Wilder having such a wide stance prevents many opponents getting close but I think when he moves Povetkin could start to get close and wouldnt count him out in that one either


I think Povetkin is in with a chance with any of the HWs even if not favourite.
I think Povetkin would have a tougher time in some ways with fighters like Miller due to styles

Who knows but I think Joshua has to be favourite

 

Yes, based on the standards set by some AJ fans, fanboys and boxing fans in general. If they claim before the bout that this bout is a mismatch and that Joshua will win with extreme ease with pretty much no difficulties. Then they can't then defend this win as a credible victory after Joshua wins.

Or, if Joshua doesn't live up to the standards and expectation that was initially set before the fight. Joshua deserves enormous criticism. And not criticizing him accordingly, exposes those boxing fans as hypocrites / with double standards.

So this is basically a no win situation for Anthony Joshua. If he wins with ease, then he deserves no credit since it was expected to be a mismatch to begin with. And if he doesn't win with ease or doesn't win at all, then he deserves enormous criticism.

Based on the standards set, I expect Anthony Joshua to totally annihilate Povetkin with pretty much no difficulties whatsoever in a very short time. I don't expect Joshua to get hit by a single meaningful punch from Povetkin. Nor do I expect Joshua to even lose a round. I expect Joshua to land all the meaningful punches and defeat Povetkin as gruesomely, or even worse than how Povetkin defeated David Price. By breaking Povetkin's body parts, limbs, teeth and etc. Basically by inflicting long term damage on Povetkin's body.

 

When do you feel he was ducking Povetkin?

 

Keep drinking that matchroom kool-aid laced with roids and meth. Sasha is a step up from Parker and will not be tamed by a pawing jab or matchroom ref. He will have Femi robot dancing and rolling about the canvas, and he will finish Femi off, no second wind and uppercut.

 

I've already explicitly stated I rate one on size + quality and not just one of them. Especially in the heavyweight division!

A heavyweight with big size + quality > a heavyweight that is small in size + has quality.

According to you, Povetkin never beat a noteworthy / legitimate tall super heavyweight. This means Povetkin is totally unproven against tall super heavyweights. So are you going to somehow find a way to give credit to Joshua WHEN Joshua destroys Povetkin with ease, even though Povetkin is totally unproven against tall super heavyweights? Or are you going to avoid being a hypocrite and rightfully not give Joshua any credit for destroying Povetkin? Since why should Joshua deserve any credit for beating an opponent who is totally unproven against legitimate tall super heavyweights in Povetkin?

And if Povetkin somehow wins or even gives more difficulties to Joshua than what you've already predicted before the fight, then what are you going to do then? Are you going to rightfully criticize Joshua accordingly or are you going to expose yourself as a hypocrite with double standards by claiming Povetkin was a credible opponent all along (even though such wouldn't have been the case before the fight)?

Or how about if Joshua wins by excessively clinching Povetkin like how Wladimir Klitschko did? Are you going to be equally critical of Joshua as you were of Wladimir Klitschko?

 

If that happens, I'd be the first to hugely criticize Anthony Joshua. Let's see if his extreme fanboys and fan base that have set this extremely high standard / expectation for Joshua as to whether they also criticize him rightly if he fails to live up to the expectations / standards that they set for him. Or whether they'll be exposed as total hypocrites with double standards!

I've saved those quotes by those extreme AJ fanboys / fan girls / fans.

 

This is the weakest take of all time.

You are basically saying you hate Joshua.

 

Povetkin hasn't looked good in his last couple of fights and might be too old, but if he can get control of the pace early and it's in Russia anything is possible. But, if it's in the U.K. Its an easy win for Joshua. Anytime Parker so much as landed a clean shot Joshua would look to the ref and the ref would break it up. Wilder has the power to knock Joshua out in one shot in the U.K. Or US, but Povetkin at this age I don't see it.

However, unlike Ortiz I can't see Povetkin stepping aside for Joshua and getting played. Povetkin will definitely force his mandatory status.

 

No, I'm saying that if Joshua fails to live up to the standards / expectations set by the vast majority of his fan base and boxing fans in general. Then he rightfully deserves the appropriate criticism. In this instance, the appropriate criticism involves coming to the conclusion that Joshua is one of the most overrated champions in boxing history (relative to the hype he has been receiving).

Or are you going to disagree with this argument? If yes, why?

 

I'm taking it as read that Sasha will up his game and give a career performance, removing matchroom judges and refs out of the equation. I have no doubt he will be robbed if he doesn't get the ko.