WBA regular and the WBA Super

Its so a promoter can say they have a world title fight on their card, and the WBA can collect some sanctioning cash.

 

Conor Benn is number 10 with WBA ...Khan is 12 with WBC

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*edit* Josh Kelly is below Conor Benn with WBA

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Money.

 

WBA give them out to anyone. WBA Super, WBA Regular, WBA Platinum, WBA Tesco Clubcard etc

 

No point except more sanctioning fees.

 

It's bizarre Fielding beat Ryder and holds the WBA regular but Ryder wins his next fight he's the mandatory for the Smith Groves winner not Fielding ?

 

GGG fans like to **** on WBA Regular title.......

Until you tell them most of his defence record is with the Regular title then suddenly its legit......

Ffs Charr is the WBA Regular heavyweight Champ. That tells you all you need to know about the state of that belt.

And people give Young Christopher **** about the IBO.

Even AJ is a proud IBO world champion

 

Don’t try too big up the IBO belt just too make Eubank look good, the IBO title is trash and hopefully always will be

 

It's just We be Atrocious being themselves.

Check out the latest WBA HW rankings if you want a giggle. http://www.wbaboxing.com/wba-ranking#.W5xCPJXfO00 those comedians at the WBA are so funny.

 

Fielding best Ryder aged ago, hardly relevant now.

 

It's basically the interim belt

I preferred the look of the old WBA super with the ribbons

 

There is logic to it if you look into the origins of the two titles. The main problem is the WBA not following it's own rules or boxing politics and legal issues get in the way of enforcement.

Their are some benefits a Super champion enjoys that a regular champion does not, such as mandatory defence every 18 months (along with higher sanctioning fees)

Taken from the WBA rules http://www.wbaboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/WBA-Rules-adopted-in-Bulgaria-6-11-15.pdf (opens PDF file)

"17. Unified Title. The Association will recognize a World Champion as a Unified Champion when he is also recognized as world champion in a comparable weight class by one or more of the other sanctioning organizations. Likewise, it may also recognize a Unified mandatory contender. 18. Super Champion Status. In exceptional circumstances, the Championships Committee and the President may designate a Champion (other than an Interim Champion) as a Super Champion. The President and Committee may establish criteria for a Super Championship. In such a designation, the Committee President may determine conditions and requirements of defenses and retention of such a title, including, but not limited to, the following: a. Mandatory defense period; b. Sanction fees, including purse fees for both title and non-title bouts; WBA RULES as Adopted at Directorate Meeting in Sofia, Bulgaria 6/11/15 11 c. In what manner and at what time an official contender for the Super Title shall be named; and d. Such other conditions as the Committee and President deems warranted. An official contender for a World Championship Title shall not thereby be considered to be an official contender for a Super Championship. A Super Champion who loses a title or non-title bout shall have no right to be ranked thereafter in the weight division. If the Committee and President designate a Super Champion at the time the boxer is a World Champion, they may also suspend the provisions of Rule C.27 and other rules applicable to a World Championship inconsistent with the conditions and requirements under which they have designated a Super Champion. If a President and Committee designate a Super Champion, the vacant regular title need not be filled."

My understanding here is that if a regular champion is upgraded to super champion then the regular title ceases to exist. However, if the current regular championship continues to be defended and won or lost in the ring it remains in existence. This is where things start to get cloudy. David Haye won the (full) WBA championship from Valuev who then went on the fight Klitschko for a newly created 'Super Belt'. In this case Chagaev was also designated champion in recess (through injury and illness) later stripped for refusing to face mandatory. The vacant belt was eventually picked up by Povetkin who in turn vacated to face Klitschko. Chagaev then picked up this vacant belt again loosing it to Lucas Browne. Browne was stripped Chagaev re-instated and then later stripped for refusing to pay fees to the WBA. Charr then picked up this vacated belt and must now defend against Oquendo (who is still owed a shot after a 5 year legal dispute). After David Haye fought Klitschko this 'regular' lineage is probably the most corrupt in the history of heavyweight boxing.

"2. Super Belts. Similarly the Association will grant Super Belts to those champions that make 5 or 10 (if it was the case) successful defenses of his title. These Super Belts will be named after those champions that have been able to defend their title 5 or 10 times. See Appendix C for a listing of boxers who are qualified for a Super Belt."

Appendix C goes on to provide a list of 'super belts' which from my interpretation is the boxers that the 'super belts' are named after in each weight division.

"APPENDIX C SUPER BELTS
Heavy: Joe Louis (5 defenses), Muhammad Ali (10 defenses);
Cruiser: Evander Holyfield (5 defenses);
Light Heavy: Archie Moore (5 defenses), Virgil Hill (10 Defenses);
Super Middle: Sugar Ray Leonard (5 defenses);
Middle: Carlos Monzon (10 defenses);
Super Welterweight:Thomas Hearns (5 defenses);
Welter: Sugar Ray Robinson (5 defenses);
Super Light: Antonio Cervantes "Kid Pambele" (5 defenses);
Light: Roberto Duran (5 defenses);
Super Feather: Gabriel "Flash" Elorde (5 defenses);
Feather: Sandy Sadler (5 defenses), Eusebio Pedroza (10 defenses);
Bantam: Eder Jofre (5 defenses);
Super Bantam: Wilfredo Gomez (5 defenses);
Super Fly: Khaosay Galaxy (5 defenses);
Fly: Pascual Perez (5 defenses);
Light Fly: Yoko Gushiken (5 defenses);
Minimum: Leo Gamez (5 defenses)"

 

The WBA are just pulling a fast one. They probably can't believe they get away with it themselves.

Whoever came up with the idea of a 'Super' champion needs to be fired into the sun. It contributes nothing to the sport of boxing and leaves us with this 'regular' title which is yet another strap that lets boxers call themselves 'world champion'. Boxing world champion has got to be the most abused term across any sport.

I'd have less truck with them if the Regular was called 'silver' like the WBC have, or something like that.

 

There is a difference as it gives the super champ the entitlement to make less mandatories but why don't they just give that to unified champions as they are the only ones who really need it so they can make good fights rather than be stowed off with shitty mandatories.

In reality it's just a way to collect more fees. The promoters and boxers like it as they can say they are a champ or are in a world title fight, try and make the fighters or fights bigger than what they are.

In all though, it's a load of bollocks.