WBA will order Usyk vs Wilder if Dubois fights falls through....

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  1. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure Usyk is human.
     
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  2. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hrgovic is definitely out because Usyk never once mentioned him while Hrgovic expressed his desire for that fight, Zhang deserves a fight with Usyk and that fight would certainly bring a lot of money...
     
  3. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love Usyk as much as the next guy but I'm just keeping it real. Pedantism aside, Wilder has dangerous power and if he lands clean, he can hurt Usyk, simple as that. Wilder, pound for pound is not in Usyks league, so I understand your opinion. I tend to look at things from the 'worst case scenario' viewpoint.
     
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  4. dragansimic22

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    Dubois (mandatory) lost to Joyce (was mandatory) who lost to Zhang (now mandatory) who lost to Hrgovic (now mandatory) and next in line after Dubois.
     
  5. dragansimic22

    dragansimic22 Member banned Full Member

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    Hrgovic won fair and square, stop calling man a cheat.
     
  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You take the offer on the table rather than the one you hope will come through. As far as we know, Wilder-AJ is still just talk. If the Saudis make a better offer and he has both Joshua and Usyk on the table, he would probably choose Joshua because of the money — and figure he can then fight Usyk for more in a unification if he wins since he’d have better bargaining power for a bigger split. So that play would be to fight both if he’s confident in beating AJ.

    The other part of that puzzle is will Joshua take it? If Usyk is on offer and Wilder’s team doesn’t have an understanding (something concrete) that (a) the Saudis have come up with a bigger offer for Wilder-Joshua AND that Joshua will take it instead of just not fighting again this year or Hearn steering AJ to a different opponent to appease DAZN … he’d basically have to take the Usyk fight.
     
  7. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    He didn’t. Many rightly feel Zhang won. It was a close fight. It wasn’t a total robbery, but Zhang did the better work. 9 people out of 10 will tell you that. But I assume you are Croatian. I’m yet to meet anyone who is not Croatian and thinks Hrgovic won “fair and square”.
     
  8. dragansimic22

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    Then say how exactly he lost - dont say he lost - tell me how? Zhang was dead from round 6-12, and in 12th he almost died. Hrgovic was knocked down in 1rst and by that he lost the fight?

    If you say it is robbery - it is a total robbery - just explain to me how? Hrgovic didnt get K.O-ed, ok so it is not KO victory, Hrgovic didnt get TKO or DC, ok. So there is only points left - which are scored by shots - on which Hrgovic thres 2x more than Zhang, clearly outpointed him.

    And that is total robbery. Furthermore, why Zhang refuses rematch? Then, you bring question of majority (9/10), there is 1.3 bilion chinese vs 3.8 milion croatians - if chinese say croatia doesnt exist, is it true?

    Give me source of those statistic. I am serbian, and I can tell even Hrgovic worst enemy - his ex coach who got him to Olympic who hates Hrgovic guts said it was clear win.

    If he didnt won fair and square, it is implied that Hrgovic is cheat, so prove he cheated.
     
  9. Kura

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    First of all sir boxing is scored on rounds so you can barley win 7 rounds then get smashed in last 5 but you still win .....second this is not 1970 olympics where refs score points for each thrown clean shot No matter how impactfull it is. This case it was even fight robbery might be to strong words butbi also think Zhang won
     
  10. MAD_PIGE0N

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    According to the 152 fans that currently voted on [url]BoxRec Scoring for Hrgovic VS Zhang[/url], it's a close win for Hrgovic for one reason, considering the average scores per round - Zhilei gassed more than Filip after the 6th round.

    We can look at CompuBox which doesn't take into consideration all aspects of the game, but one - the punch stats, but even there it's in favour of Hrgovic. Still, this can be considered valid in rounds when one fighter has solidly outboxed the other and hasn't been put in a knockdown.

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  11. Braindamage

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    Wilder is less deserving than Dubois in your opinion? Just curious on what you base your opinion on.
     
  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't call your son a cheat Mrs, Hrgovic.
     
  13. dragansimic22

    dragansimic22 Member banned Full Member

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    yes u did
     
  14. dragansimic22

    dragansimic22 Member banned Full Member

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    Chinese bot
     
  15. dragansimic22

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    Blatant robbery