WBC 30 Day Weigh in - Mayweather vs Ortiz

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  1. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Cheers for the info.... :good

    I still think 10% is a lot for the next day, I think 5% is fairer. It's alright for the 30 day weigh-in mind.

    With the 30 day and 7 day procedures being in place could we go back to same day weigh-ins?
     
  2. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    I would love same day weigh ins but think its more for health reasons than anything. it would take years for the playing field to be leveled.

    If you brought in same day weigh ins Mayweather would be fighting Lightweights still.
     
  3. Shearsie

    Shearsie Active Member Full Member

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    :?

    Wouldn't it be the other way round? i.e. fighters would be fighting at higher, more natural weight classes?

    Guys like Hatton, WW Margarito and MW Pavlik would all have to move up weight classes as they wouldn't be able to drain themselves as low due to less rehydration time?
     
  4. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    ^^^

    That's what I was thinking.

    Mayweather would still be at 147.

    I suppose with some fighters there's no way of knowing where they'd be - because the rules have changed they can cut more weight, re-hydrate and still be alright..... or they might do things differently and manage their weight more.

    Some fighters manage their weight as if the old rules apply and don't put much on overnight.

    I'd hazard a guess at the following.....

    Froch - 168
    Mayweather - 147
    Pacquiao - 147
    Kessler - 175
    Khan - 147
    Margarito - 160
    Williams - 154
    Mosley - 160
    Bellew - 200
    Macklin - 168
     
  5. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its actually 10lbs mate, the info is on the IBF website.
     
  6. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    what i mean is Mayweather would be at 147 fighting guys like Guererro, Rios, Marquez etc.
     
  7. Godfather

    Godfather I put the G in God Full Member

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    If this is true, why could he not make the 144 pound mark for the Marquez fight?
     
  8. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    its still 3lbs of muslce he would be stripping off. hard for anyone.

    all the guys up at 10lbs above there weight are taking of fat most of the time.
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    He just hates cutting weight. For the Chavez fight I think he hydrated 6 pounds and after the fight said it was a hard cut and he wants to move up. Most fighters would laugh at a 6 pound cut. Floyd must have preferred to pay the cash instead of cut 2 pounds.

    Madness and wrong but thats the only thing I can think of.
     
  10. Moe Greene

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    Rib is right, Gamboa, Burns, Uchiyama and JuanMa would be lightweights, the likes of Rios and Katsidis Welters.
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    The daft thing is that some of these fighters would actually be better if they trained to improve rather than training to make weight.

    They'd last longer too as the weight cutting puts miles on the clock, and the extra tricks they'll learn will stand them in good stead when they're past their best and fighting the young bucks coming through.
     
  12. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Give Floyd Mayweather he's always in shape, Ortiz was a big fat **** during their fight press conference. Floyd Mayweather is always ready, and lives healthy and is always close to his fight weight........"Unlike some ******s".

    Ortiz is not a athlete, he's just a fat kid who dedicated to the sport of boxing. He's not a gifted athlete like Floyd Mayweather, and he could'nt cope with the work ethics of Floyd Mayweather.

    Most boxers think they train hard..? Yeh for 8 weeks, twice or 3 times a year.

    Floyd Mayweather trains hard all year round, and takes it to the next level when he's in fight camp.

    Ortiz is done already.

    "The only two things that beat Floyd Mayweather is father time, and himself"

    Just look at the chubby little fatty Ortiz.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz_UUEn9jxQ[/ame]
     
  13. Jared

    Jared Active Member Full Member

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    People say Mayweather's a natural welterweight...he isn't. He's a natural lightweight or even featherweight. He doesn't get as much credit as he deserves fighting at that weight, compared to Pacquiao.
     
  14. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Yep to much on becoming a athlete and losing weight. Many have lost the importance of developing technique and skillset.

    Becoming a athlete is obviously important in this day and age but i'd like to see guys working bit more on there craft.

    Like Bradley i couldn't believe the video of him and Hearns days before the Alexander fight. Hearns had to show him how to throw a good jab and in the end you could see development in space of 3 minutes.

    For me if i was a fighter i'd be in gym even when not in camp working on set moves in ring offensively and defensively.
     
  15. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is what I don't understand is that a professional fighter is just that a pro. He should be in the gym all year round and the weight should be at a reasonable level the focus of a training camp should be to hone skills and prepare gameplans for a particular opponent and cutting out the last bit of weight.

    I do thinkt that the emphasis of training 2-3 times a day is less on actual technique or strategic development but rather losing the weight in time.