WBC clear the way for Haye-Vitali

Vitali should retire after his next fight. Prime Vitali would have no problems with Haye. There's no sense risking a fight like this now at the age of 41, or 42 which he could be by the time they fight

 

This actually has very little to do with my original post though, and is not a real concen to me.

My main point is that I am a Klitschko fan and I have no wish to see him lose to Haye when he is well past his best, the fight would mean nothing.

For me if Haye is really serious he should try and avenge his defeat to Wladimir; but IMO he knows that he hasn't got much of a chance and is going for the easier option. I don't see why the fans should enourage this.

 

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Well said my friend!

100% agree :good

 

If Haye fought and beat Vitali (a huge if IMO) then he would undoubtedly target Wlad. He use the tactics he prefers i.e. Chisora/Enzo fight rather than his 'running' fights.

I'm by no means saying he'd win but a rematch would still be big money.

 

what's the bigger disadvantage?

being a bit past prime (but still a champion winning every round against most of your opponents)

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Oh yes, he's well past it...........

or being half a foot shorter and 40lbs lighter than your opponent?



As I said, Vitali's legacy is HELLA shaky, probably HOF, but not ATG. He can choose to retire, but beating Haye, particularly stopping him would be top 3 win for him.

It's Vitali's choice, but they have had physical dominance over their opposition their entire careers.

Klitschko fans seem to genuinely fear a loss here, like i've never seen before.

I believe Haye would knock Vitali out.

 

Firstly not sure what the photo proves?

I did not question his physical condition, he is a true professional and of course he is an incredible physical specimen, particularly considering his age.

But physical condition does not mean he is at his best, just look at Holyfield for an example.

Winning most rounds against average oppositon is one thing, but love him or loathe him one has to accept that Haye is a serious contender.

Yes Haye has the physical disadvantages, but he is also ten years younger and has not had an injury palgued career like Vitali.

Finally, yes a win against Haye would be impressive considering the stage of his career, and yes it would be a great way to end things, and if it had been 3 or 4 years a go I'd say go for it, but anyone who has followed his career can see he is not the fighter he was and that a still young Haye is a very dangerous (and unnecessary) challenge for him at this time IMO.

So often we have criticised champions for going on too long, I would love to see Vitali 'do a Lennox' and walk away with his head held high, because nobody who knows what they're talking about would question that decision.

 

I'd agree.................

if not for this statement

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after going on about Lewis not keeping his word for over a decade, Vitali will look rather bad if he does exactly the same thing to Haye

 

Boxing is so ****ing corrupt. Bet Chisora does not get the same treatment.

 

I appreciate that he may have made that statement (or words to that effect) but to be honest I don't care.

My post wasn't about what he should or should not do, or what I think will or will not happen, I was stating what I would like to see happen as a fan.

I don't believe that he would lose any respect for retiring without facing Haye, as I said before anyone who follows the sport closely and in particular the Klitschko's knows that Vitali is far from being a coward and that he has achieved more than enough in a very successful career; the fact that he came back after nearly four years out straight into a winning title fight with a dangerous (albeit quite limited) boxer such as Samuel Peters is pretty remarkable in my eyes, and as 'comebacks' go it surely rates amongst the best.

He does not need Haye in my opinion.

Would I like to see him fight Haye? Yes, definitely if he was in his prime.

Who would I like to see win? To be honest, after all I have said I would actually like to see Haye win, because I am British and I like him; but I don't want to see David Haye beat a fighter such as Vitali Klitschko because he is an 'old man', in boxng terms of course!

Who do I think would win? Prime Vitali almost certainly; past his best Vitali, Haye has surely got a great chance.

I just feel that a win against a past his best Klitschko actually means very little to Haye in the grand scheme, because every body would know it was against a past it fighter; the only 'good' that may come for Haye is that a win may encourage Wladimir into a rematch.

Big money for all concerned almost certainly, but I struggle to see a different outcome to the first fight.

And before we go too hard on Vitali for retiring before he has faced a challenger, lets not forget Haye did retire with far less reason than Vitali (or so it certainly seemed), and nobody gave him to hard a time.

 

Well no, your whining is irrelevant. The simple fact of the matter is Vitali Klitschko's next fight (should he beat Charr) is against the mandatory WBC challenger. Thus David Haye or any other Englisher is totally irrelevant. No English type was prepared to earn a WBC ranking in order to face Klitschko. They must have been far to scared to face Boytsov, Arreola or Steverne.

This era is far too tough for the English types to prosper. Long gone are the days of 'Enry Cooper constantly fighting for the World title.

 

And the true nature of your deception is revealed.

I congratulate you on hiding it for so long.

You fear a brutal knock-out loss, which would shred Vitali completely, his legacy damaged for good.

Victory has defeated you!

now, back to the general with you.

 

why doesn't Haye take a fight with a guy like Arreola, Boystov, Stiverne...


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Did you pick Chisora to KO him by any chance?

Chisora is just as good if not better than those three. Haye sparked him.

**** the blatantly corrupt rankings. Haye sparked the guy the gave Vitali "his hardest fight since Lewis". How is that not, using common sense, the best type of eliminator?

He doesn't fight those guys because he doesn't need to.

Haterz gon' hate.

 

Why is it whenever Haye is mentioned the ****ing ***s like Manning and the rest of them out of the general come sniffing round in here?

**** off, knob heads, your trolling is not wanted in here