WBC eliminator in September?

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  1. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Virchis-Gomez is pencilled in for September 28th.

    That's one hell of a delay. I know they're thinking about the Olympics but still, sticking almost 7 months onto the previous date seems extreme.

    The WBC is moving so slowly at the moment. Ever since Rahman lost the belt to Maskaev it's sunk into a quagmire of injury delays, court cases and foggy contendership.

    It's been fought over just once in the last 18 months...and that was again f'ing Peter Okhello.
     
  2. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    The winner of Peter-Maskaev will fight Vitali or someone else anyways before Virchis-Gomez anyways. It doesn't really matter.. at least they have a lot of time to prepare for the fight.
     
  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Who do you like in the Virchis-Gomez fight?

    I haven't made a pick yet, but it seems as though there two reasonable outcomes: Virchis by KO and Gomez by UD
     
  4. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're not even slightly frustrated at the sheer slow movement of the WBC?
     
  5. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I'm very frusturated.

    Peter/Maskaev could have happened in early 2007 after Peter beat Toney in 2006. But the WBC orders another elimination rematch. Peter wins convincingly. When it seems as though he's got the title shot secured, Wladimir Klitschko comes into the picture and a potential unification fight with Maskaev is talked about. That dies and Vitali comes into the picture. Court battles take place over a few months and finally, Vitali decides to take a tune-up with Jameel McCline. For a day on Fightnews, a Lennox comeback is mentioned as is the possibility of awarding him Emeritus status. On HBO, he denies rumors of a comeback. Peter is then slated to fight Maskaev at MSG on October 6th, but Maskaev injures himself and needs surgery. The WBC votes to award Peter the interim title and Golota, McCall, McCline, and Virchis are all mentioned as possible opponents. Finally, Peter faces McCline, but barely escapes the 3rd round.

    Finally, and I stress "FINALLY!"...we have Peter/Maskaev set on March 8th. Let's just hope nothing happens between now and then.

    It will be 2010 before the WBC mess is sorted out completely:-(
     
  6. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thank you, that's just how I feel as well.
    Some of it has been unfortunate, other parts have been intentional, but it all adds up to one big delay.

    More specifically, the chances of the WBC champ getting involved in a unification bout is so far off, that's what really irritates.

    At this moment in time, we have Peter-Maskaev, winner then fights Vitali, the winner either faces the Virchis-Gomez winner or squeezes in a quick voluntary defence first...and THEN he might be free for a unification bout.
     
  7. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Right now I'm leaning with Gomez by decision. I'll be cheering for Virchis, but I think he's too limited and slow to have a great chance of landing something flush on a 100% Gomez. I'm expecting Gomez to be fully motivated/prepared for this fight and he should be able to outbox him without a whole lot of trouble. Gomez is the type of defensive fighter who would be troubled greatly by an extremely aggressive fighter and Virchis isn't that. Virchis is predictable, slow, and he isn't the kind of puncher that goes all out looking for the KO. However, Virchis does have a good chance to win because of his 1-punch-power. If he lands one flush shot on Gomez's shaky chin, it could lead to a stoppage victory.

    Are you leaning towards anyone right now?
     
  8. brooklyn1550

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    Gomez because of his superior skills and Virchis's succeptability to "outboxers."

    The fact that Yanqui Diaz stopped Gomez in 1 has me a little worried since Virchis hits 5x as hard as Diaz. That may have been a fluke though.
     
  9. huki

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    That was an inactive Gomez who wasn't motivated at all. His chin worries me a lot too though, that's the only reason it's such a close fight.
     
  10. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Considering Vitali's track record of not making it through training camp this seems a bit more of a waste of time.

    I sincerely hope the WBC is done with emeritius bullshitus awards. They went into this thinking they'd make more money but all it's done is hold the title hostage for one lousy defense in 2 years.

    What will end up happening is Gomez-Virchis will end up waiting well beyond 2008. Sadly enough.

    I'll take Gomez by UD though. Virchis is just as slow and orthodox as Sinan Sam. I also tend to think that Yanqui Diaz got an unmotivated Gomez.
     
  11. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post,huki!

    I will be rooting for Virchis,too.And I ,too,think that Virchis is too limited to win this upcomming fight.Gomez is one of the most talented heavy weights out there.In terms of skills he plays in a different league.
    Virchis is slow,predictable,one-dimensional,and can be easily outboxed as could be seen in his encounters with Sprott and Bidenko.
    Gomez has to be fully concentrated and stick to his tactic throughout all 12 long rounds.Virchis is a murderous puncher.One moment of weakness and neglect of your defence and you are out of the game.
    Gomez 'd better keep his nose to the grindstone or he will find himself lying in the ring dust.However,if everything goes well Gomez should be able to win a wide point decision.I very much hope that this lazy Cuban playboy wont prefer parything once again to sweating inside a gym.
    Gomez will be in big trouble if he runs out of gas in the later rounds against Virchis."The Hunter" just needs one shot to kill his prey.
     
  12. diamondDave

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    This is an absurd delay for two fighters that haven't proven **** at heavyweight. This is basically wasting a year of their careers in their primes. I think its stupid. And whoever wins, will probably have to wait even longer because Vitali is suppose to get the next shot after Maskaev-Peter.
     
  13. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ridiculous,isnt it!

    Makes me sick,too!
     
  14. Heavyrighthand

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    That fight is put off so far into the future, are you sure that Oleg is not fighting.................LOL

    (ahem)
     
  15. Heavyrighthand

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    Right. Good point.

    The winner of Virchis Gomez won't get his titleshot for quite some time yet, so its not going to delay anything, titleshotwise.

    It is rediculous, to have the fighters wait that long, yes, but seeing as how the winner would probably sit and wait for his titleshot, and not want to chance losing it by taking a stay busy fight. So, I see this delay as only hurting the loser of Virchis Gomez, cause the loser could have already been getting back on track with his comeback fight, by the time this fight happens.

    But it don't hurt /hinder the winner, and it won't delay any titleshots, no.