WBC may award SOTO the INTERIM title

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  1. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    If WBC would declare that fight a NO CONTEST . . . then they cannot award the title to any of the protagonist. NO CONTEST means no winner. The champion remains the champ and this case they are fighting for a vacant title . . . it should remain vacant.

    Alright people . . . let's discuss this objectively. What's your call? :think
     
  2. aillmatic

    aillmatic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't know how I feel about this. I mean, Soto was clearly going to win the fight anyway... but the official still ruled it a DQ regardless if it was a horrible call, I don't think the WBC should declare winners.

    I say keep the belt vacant, and order an immediate rematch. If Lorenzo is too injured to fight for the vacant belt right away then let Soto fight the next ranked opponent for the belt and Lorenzo can get a rematch as soon as he's healthy.
     
  3. shelterr

    shelterr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If the fight had been handled correctly he would have been awarded the belt. I am impressed that the WBC is actually going to do the right thing.
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Objectively?

    The belt belongs to Lorenzo. If the WBC disagrees with the ruling, order Lorenzo to defend against (a very angry) Soto in his first defense within a certain amount of time or he'll be stripped. I don't usually agree with stripping for not fighting mandatories, but this is clearly a controversial situation that needs to be rectified. But to not recognize the decision because they don't like it? Pandora's Box anyone? And now....not only will they not recognize it, but simply award a fighter a belt who didn't win the fight in the ring OR out of it?

    At MOST, the belt should remain vacant.
     
  5. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Exactly what I'm thinking. The ref ****ed up . . . that's all there is to it. How can they declare it a NO CONTEST and yet reward the other fighter with the title?

    To stress and boost my point further . . . if it's a NO CONTEST it will appear as a NC on both fighters records. :D
     
  6. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    On a sidenote Cortez deserves to be humiliated. Any possible way they can do that seems appropriate. Overturn, reverse, whatever, just take action. It's time to put some of these mini gods, aka overly complacent/overly reactive referees, on notice.
     
  7. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Appropriate ??? A sanction of maybe a year suspension will do. This will catch the attention of the other refs and put them up on their toes.
     
  8. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    They just need to boot Cortez out of the sport permanently.

    He is using his position to gain publicity, and feels that the events are all about him.
     
  9. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Sounds good to me. Nice.
     
  10. shelterr

    shelterr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I guess everyone is so into how cool boxing politics are that they aren't interested in JUSTICE. It is a blight on the entire sport and the result should be changed. I'd like to see what you would all think if you had trained your ass off just get told that you INTENTIONALLY fouled a guy who you destroyed with legal blows. Its a disgrace that discredits the integrity if the sport.
     
  11. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Justice will be served to both parties if it's gonna be an NC. That's not politics. Changing the results in favor of anybody would be politics.
     
  12. shelterr

    shelterr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Justice is the correct fighter winning the fight and the belt. Regardless of the means. Correcting an injustce, provides justice. Its fairly simple.
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Which will allow the sanctioning bodies to then make decisions "in the name of justice" anytime they like. Which will then "blight" the sport even further.

    You may say "regardless of the means" now, but later on, you will be upset about further horrible decisions made because those means are available. They don't make case by case rules with large organizations. They will make it a rule that will be applicable over a broad spectrum.

    So it's not about politics being "cool". Its about not allowing an already corrupt sanctioning body to further means of corrupting the sport.
     
  14. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    The mere fact that a loss would be removed from Soto's record is enough justice. Declaring him a winner would be crossing the line . . . it's clear that he did throw a punch when the other guys gloves and knees are already in the canvas. The only question is . . . if it's intentional or not.
     
  15. shelterr

    shelterr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I hear ya. But anyone who saw this knows what happened. Two words: Instant Replay.