WBC may punish Wilder for his "body" comments: latest: WBC decides that Wilder did not say anything

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  1. Holler

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    That super harsh decision is going to be revised after a suitable period of time has passed. Only two scoops of ice cream will be the outcome and no chocolate sprinkles to send a strong message to other boxers.
     
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  2. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is nothing to argue about because your point is idiotic and only viable to idiots like you.

    I don't care about Kovalev and never have but if someone makes comments about killing someone then its a step too far. I personally was over the moon for the way Lewis punished Tyson for what he said.

    Don't make up crap so it fits your agenda.

    And as for "I have no idea about fighting inside the ring" you couldn't be further from the truth and I'm pretty sure we already had this conversation which ended up with you logging off in frustration.
     
  3. Rumsfeld

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    :lol:
     
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  4. Pretty Boy Floyd

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    While i don't share the idea of wanting to kill somebody in the ring, i do think wilder is entitled say what he feels.

    Every fighter during a fight is trying to inflict the most damage they possibly can to their opponent this is a FACT, no fighter puts less effort into their punches in fear of harming the opponent, The rules,gloves and referee are there to protect the fighters.

    Wilder also said in the SAME interview "deontay would feel bad about it" In his latest IFL interview he also said he wishes fighters go home safe etc. That was the bronze bomber talking, Some times the bronze bomber comes out during interviews once they get into the zone of talking about up coming and potential fights etc that side of him comes out. A lot of fighters change when they get into the ring or get talking about big fights, You often see fighters change the closer a fight gets etc.

    He could also have just said that as a mental strategy for opponents that might be listening.
     
  5. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    You don't have any idea of fighting, because if you don't think every fighter has that mindset then you shouldn't be watching this great sport.

    Boxers are of a different breed. The job of a boxer by nature is to inflict as much damage, if you truly think about that, you really shouldn't be shocked by such comments. The mind influences the body through thoughts, without having blood thirsty thoughts, you wouldn't such any fighter punishing another.

    You said it yourself, you enjoyed ''Lewis punishing Tyson''. Right there you showed your own hypocrisy and lost the argument

    Whether you wish to admit it or not subconsciously you desire to witness more dangerous fights and with as much 'damage' as possible, just so that you can be entertained while you sit comfortably on your couch judging their words and actions from an average joe psychological mindset, spreading false outrage.

    Lastly I never logged out of anywhere. I will never shirk or lose a debate to a moron who is not even aware of what they say, to the point where it is child's play using their own words against them.

    You're not on my level and never will be.
     
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  6. fidds

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    He is just not very intelligent, this isn't excusing him or condoning his comments. Look at the likes of gerald McLennan or micheal watson and see what a ridiculous comment it is.

    Boxing is about beating your opponent not killing or permanently maiming. As a world champion he should know better or be advised better.

    Obviously his advice and matchmaking through out his career has been appalling.
     
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  7. Pretty Boy Floyd

    Pretty Boy Floyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Plenty of ancient cultures, gladiators etc fought to the death in front of large crowds and all went willingly into battle to do so and knowing they could die, That is one of the most honorable acts of bravery possible, It may seem barbaric by today's standards but i admire such bravery and courage and respect it, even though its not something i would ever wish to do my self.
     
  8. Holler

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    Sounds utterly disgraceful and not the sort of thing any decent person could condone.

    These brides, transferred in seconds you say? What exactly do they look like? Just out of curiousity you understand, asking for a friend as it happens...
     
  9. N17

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    We've heard all sorts of threats and distasteful comments over the years, while I'm not excusing Wilder, he is a big boy and responsible for what he said, I am sort of confused why this comment has caused such a stir.

    Years ago Tyson said he wanted to punch/push a fighters nose in to their brain, I'm assuming that could cause death.
    I'm sure Prince Naz said he was going to send a fighter home in a coffin.
    Haye said all sorts of stuff to Bellew before the first fight about what would happen to his health.

    And I'm sure there are countless examples, like I said I'm not excusing it but I'm not going to jump on Wilder and hammer him for saying something that while distasteful is similar to what others have said and got away with.
     
  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Wrong.

    Boxing is about inflicting as much damage as possible on opponent who is intending to do the same.

    This is why you have men such as Mike tyson speculating on the pleasure he would get from driving the nose-bone of an opponent into his brain.

    Conor Mcgregor speaks of the pleasure of bouncing heads off the canvas.

    Joshua sticks his tongue out when he is snapping his opponents necks back to their spine

    This is a warrior gladiator sport. All the glitz, glamour and slick television production has tricked many minds into believe it is some Hollywood acting production where there are niceties involved inside the ring.

    As a fighter you have to have violent psychopathic thoughts in order to carry them through the force of a punch.

    Or do you think when fighters are throwing haymakers and uppercuts, they are worried about making sure it doesn't cause too much pain? :lol:

    Fools the lot of you.
     
  11. FastSmith7

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    Well he did not say "I want to kill Andre Ward, I wanted to kill someone for a long time"
    This is basically what wildet said, the thing about what Kova said is that it can be interpreted differently whereas Wilder just clearly said "I want to commit murder, I wanted to for a long time"
     
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  12. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Well the intention is the same. The only thing different is tha Wilder is more explicit with his comments.

    I say seriously to anyone who is really so offended by such comments that they wish to censor a fighter for speaking such things, watch something else.

    Seriously and I'm not joking, boxing isn't for you. This is the most brutal gritty and violent sport there is alongside MMA. And this is the mindset that many hard hitting fighters have past and present.

    Anyone SJW or fairy who wishes to sugar coat this sport and water it down can do one.
     
  13. Guybino

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    You are defending (attempting to anyway) a man that has said more than once he wants to kill someone in the ring.

    I don't want to be on your level because its clear its full of idiots like yourself. Yeah, Lewis punished Tyson for the things he said - funnily enough about killing people.
     
  14. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's not actually true,

    contrary to popular belief (thanks to movies and dramatization) gladiators were rarely put to death; in Roman society. The killing of animals and executions were more popular. Many gladiators were respected for their willingness to fight for entertainment and hence, were allowed to live and fight again another time. It is possible in other cultures that fighting to the death be a thing but not for entertainment purposes.

    Unless we are talking about Caligula - the man was a maniac.
     
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  15. andrewa1

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    Bad comments, but I don't think he really means them. Tyson said **** like this all the time and got a lot of publicity for it. Wilder is probably just trying to draw attention, become a "heel", and get bigger ratings.

    I find it very distasteful but am trying not to judge him too much for it.

    Also, he probably wouldn't mind a $10k fine, some other slap on the wrist from WBC because it would be more headlines. So it's probably a good thing that they aren't punishing him and thereby encouraging similar conduct