WBC orders Fury vs Whyte

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  1. Unforgiven

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    Yes, but your argument is that the WBC are acting bizarrely now by ordering Fury-Whyte doesn't work IF (as I suspect) Whyte has pressed his case with legal proceedings.
    You say you don't care about legal proceedings. But that's not a serious answer. I don't care either but Dillian Whyte and the WBC and other involved parties surely do.
     
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    Everybody rated Ortiz higher than Whyte.
    Whyte being #1 in WBC rankings in 2017 was generous, to put it mildly. Where did you have him rated in November 2017?

    If I remember rightly, WBC ordered a Whyte v Breazeale eliminator in 2018 or 2019 but it fell through.

    Whyte was #1 on their crappy list but he wasn't their "mandatory".

    Whyte is a good easy tune up for Fury anyway.
    And Usyk is bound to an AJ rematch next anyway.
    It is not all bad.
     
  3. McGrain

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    Substitute bizarre for ****ing ****.
     
  4. Furey

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    AJ and Usyk will be going ahead

    Whyte has been mandatory for about 25 years now and it's the next best fight out there, especially as a Brit.

    Two Brits for a world title in a fight where there will be needle in the build up. In the meantime, AJ and Usyk look to wrap up there business and then HOPEFULLY we will see an undisputed clash between the winners in the summer.
     
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  5. McGrain

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    I hope you enjoy the fight.
     
  6. McGrain

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    I actually disagree with the finality of this.

    AJ's latest interview on the subject was an embarrassment. He wanted to be remembered as someone who "would fight anyone" and stressed respect but also, the kicker, wanted to be remembered as "a great businessman, so it's a three-pronged thing for me. People to look back and say I did the right thing from a business perspective too." Pushed on the point by a very tender Kugan he added that "if the business is right for me."

    Aj doesn't want to fight Usyk again if he can avoid it is my guess, but even if that's not true he has publicly sent signals that he is available for step-aside money "if the business is right".

    The only thing I'd say is that Fury-Usyk probably doesn't generate enough money for it to make business sense - but if both Fury and Usyk were willing to forgo a rematch clause, I think it could be done for relatively small beer as longas there is a written guarantee that AJ fights the winner.
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    It's not that bad.
    Fury gets an easy fight lined up to sharpen up. Whyte gets exposed as the bum he is. Usyk whips AJ again, we get the big fight between Fury and Usyk around July next year maybe.
    Not bad at all.
     
  8. McGrain

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    I hope you enjoy the fight.
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    Any fight featuring the heavyweight champion is watchable. Better than another year or two of inactivity.

    I thought you were a fan of both anyway.
     
  10. McGrain

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    Yes, I do like both.
     
  11. Unforgiven

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    I'd rather see Fury fight a bum like Whyte than not see him fighting at all.

    And people say Whyte deserves to get a title shot before his career is done. A LOT has been made of that.
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    You do seem to be taking a surprisingly negative stance to this fight though.
     
  13. McGrain

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    I like the Fury-Whyte fight. The build up will be fun and it's a chance for Fury to showcase his skill in the UK and if the problems with his elbows persist, it could be quite entertaining.

    But that's not what I object to.

    AJ has publicly indicated his willingness to take step-aside money. Fury has loudly proclaimed his desire for AJ to step-aside to he can fight Usyk. Usyk is not objecting. Those of us who are interested in things like undisputed, undisputed number one and etc. were waiting to see how this might progress, probably with bated breath. How will it pan out? The three parties may be able to come to an agreement surrounding AJ versus the winner here, this could actually happen.

    WBC: fIGhT FURY NOW WITE!

    Wait, why? You had years, literally, to make this fight and didn't, why now when we could get a showdown for all the marbles?

    WBC: NOW!

    Me: That's bad

    You: That's not that bad. Whyte is a total bum and Fury will win easily but it's not that bad.

    I think your position completely misses the point. But Ok, agree to disagree. I hope you enjoy the fight.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    I am coming from a position where I am assuming AJ will fight Usyk next.

    I don't think Fury v Whyte is a good fight at all, but it will do as a keep busy fight. Might shows us how far Fury has slipped, if at all.
     
  15. deadACE

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    This is completely unrealistic. The whole post is a pipe dream.

    AJ gets a big enough amount of money to step aside, it would have to be an insane amount, who would say no if it was stupid money. Nobody. Not going to happen.

    Joshua looking to get out of the Usyk fight is pure nonsense and if anything his career has shown he is willing to take risky fights, the first Wlad fight, the Ruiz Jr rematch, trying to make the Wilder fight, trying to make the Fury fight and then ultimately facing Usyk. Some saying he wouldn't even face Usyk to begin with.

    Then he's supposed to get a written guarantee to face the winner of Fury v Usyk. When? 2 yrs from now? After they have their own rematches. What's he supposed to do in the meantime? What if he loses? Does he still get the rematch?

    We all want to see Fury v Usyk next. It's not going to happen. Just like people crying about the 3rd Fury v Wilder rematch. It's pointless speculation.
     
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