WBC orders Vanes-Lara rematch

I thought it was a good fight. If Lara keeps his body attack consistant, he'll probably win.

If he neglects it, Vanes who was not concerned about Lara's power will put together combinations and more bodyshots, and possibly stop Lara late.

Lara was already showing signs of slowing down, and Vanes was walking right in, unconcerned with Lara's power.

Lara seemed like he was unprepared for Vanes and perhaps, underestimated him, and headbutted his way out.

I'm looking foward to a rematch.

 

I think they just need to line them both up for Canelo on the same night.

Lara can go first so he can warm up Canelos legs with all the chasing he would have to do to catch him. Cuban glass breaks fairly easily though so once he catches him its over. By then Canelos legs will be warmed up and ready for Vanes. Vanes goes about 10 rounds with Canelo and by then his body work will pay dividends and stop Vanes late.

 

How do you figure?

Those BS compubox stats?

Lara was practically running, just pot shotting.

Vanes was pressing the fight, throwing combinations and dictating the terms.

However, Lara did have moments.

I thought it was a draw myself. I'm looking foward to the rematch.

 

Bull**** CompuBox or not, Lara was landing the cleaner punches every round. Lederman's scorecard was absolutely awful and he still had Lara winning.

 

He was catching Vanes because Vanes was walking in, showing Lara no respect for his power.

 

The cleanest punch of the fight was the "legal" right hand that Vanes landed on Lara that opened up the cut.

Vanes punches were the harder blows and he threw in combination.

Lara did land some punches, but you could tell by the way Vanes was walking in that he was unconcerned.

I can't say that Lara was taking over. He was landing some shots, but Vanes was applying pressure, even if it was a bit reckless in the last round before the intentional headbutt.

This isn't the first time Lara has resorted to cheating tactics when he gets frusterated.

Lara may not be a very mentally strong fighter. You can tell just in the way he abandoned his body attack which would have been the key to winning the fight.

I'm not sure if he just didn't know any better or he was truly afraid of Vanes' power.

 

Bully for him. He was still being effectively outlanded pretty much every round and thus should have been trailing on the cards.

 

I didn't see that. I think compubox was bull**** in this fight. They need to do away with that bull****. It ruins people's perceptions of the fight.

 

I hate CompuBox. I still saw Vanes being consistently outlanded. Lara may have been passively admiring his defense early on but that doesn't mean Vanes deserves credit for merely throwing punches that didn't connect.

 

Alright, you opened the door, so check this out! In my current living situation, I do not have HBO or Showtime, and FNF is in its off season. I've been getting my boxing fix by watching fights on You Tube. Everybody from Walcott to Ward, and Quarry to Pavlik!

The current crop of judges do not have a ****ing clue how to score "old school" skills. Riding punches is a SKILL, not poor defense! And a ridden punch is NOT clean punching! Strategic clinching and controlling the action by slowing a fight down? That's called RING GENERALSHIP! When a fighter lands a flashy 5 punch pitty-pat, but gets hit by 2 hard flush punches, that is NOT effective aggression.

I think most of these judge we have today try to be objective. The problem is, they would not recognize effective aggression, clean punching, or ring generalship if it walked up and bit their nuts off!

 

I keep pointing out that it isn't "clean punching" that is the criteria. Lederman keeps pointing out "clean, EFFECTIVE punches" is the scoring criteria. I don't care how clean a punch looks, if someone walks through it then you can't call it EFFECTIVE even if that punch would drop other/most fighters. You score using the two guys in the ring at the time. You can tell which judges score judged on "fight" and which ones score on "boxing match".

 

The problem with Vanes is that he head hunted too much he needs to have a a more focused body attack in the rematch.

 

A rematch is okay as long as its not the MAIN EVENT of the night.

 

Agreed. He whiffed on a ton of right hands. Aiming those punches lower and roughing Lara up a bit would have been better.

 

Good, needs to happen. Lara deserved that win