WBC refuses to order Whyte vs Fury at the WBC convention

He started the lawsuit against them in June 2020...after they had been dicking him about since 2016...

People be pretending on this thread that Whyte was unreasonable in trying to hold WBC accountable for their open corruption

 

WILDER. WILDER. WILDER. WILDER. WILDER. You're a broken record.

Deontay Wilder hasn't held the WBC title for almost two years. TWO YEARS.

Deontay Wilder has nothing to do with this. Deontay Wilder doesn't have a belt. Deontay Wilder wasn't at the WBC convention. Wilder can't even fight. He's on medical suspension.

How many years out of the top spot does Wilder have to be before you STOP blaming Deontay Wilder?

Jesus Christ.

This is between Dillian Whyte and the WBC ... and it's ALWAYS been between Dillian Whyte and the WBC.

Nobody was protecting Wilder from Whyte just like nobody is protecting Fury from Whyte.

The WBC champions CHANGE ... and it's still between Dillian Whyte and the WBC.

Don't you see that?

Whyte bashes the WBC in the media for years. Refuses to participate in eliminators they ask him to participate in. His promoter bashes them in the media for four years. Whyte takes them to court. Whyte signs to fight opponents (like Wach) they don't sanction. They don't like him. He doesn't like them. They have a very difficult time agreeing on anything. If he didn't have a rematch clause with Povetkin, he probably wouldn't even be rated by them.

The WBC is so finished with Whyte, and I think Dillian Whyte just likes to be miserable.

I don't know why he wants the WBC title so bad if he thinks the organization is so AWFUL.

He signed with HEARN to get a title fight with Joshua. Then, Hearn and Whyte decided to go after the WBC belt instead. Whyte makes ZERO overtures to the other orgs. He could've gone after ANY other title. There are FOUR, after all. Hearn even offered Whyte a shot at three belts when Miller popped for PEDs, and Whyte declined.

It's almost like he's trying to block his own title shot. As soon as he's in position, he goes to the media and runs down the WBC, fails a PED test, turns down a shot at the three other belts, signs to fight an opponent the WBC won't sanction, loses to an old man. And, when he wins the rematch and is in position to fight for the belt, Whyte takes them to court.

I'm beginning to think he doesn't want to fight anyone for the title. He just likes his phoney reputation as "the guy who is ducked."

If the WBC sucks so bad, GO AFTER ANOTHER BELT!!!!

Sign to fight Joe Joyce and become the WBO mandatory. Sign to fight Charles Martin and become the IBF mandatory. Sign to fight Trevor Bryan and become the WBA mandatory.

There are plenty of belts to go around.

Stop blaming everyone else.

 

Keep making excuses for your hero

And you call everyone else a broken record. The irony

 

I can dump an overly long post on your too:

You become mandatory by first fighting an eliminator, then if you win that you fight a final eliminator, if you win that you fight the champion.

This should in theory all run quite smoothly, because by the WBC’s own rules the champion should fight a mandatory once a year. So, there would be no need/time for the winner of their final eliminator to take an extra fight.

The trouble is the WBC has another rule, which says they can ignore and make up the rules as they go along. This is clearly their favourite rule…


The rest of this post gives detail into how ridiculous this whole situation is/was:


APR 2013: Stiverne (Don King) #2 v Arreola (Dan Goosen) #1 – Stiverne wins by wide UD

Photos: Bermane Stiverne Beats Arreola in Bloody Win - Boxing News (*******.com)

JULY 2013: Chisora v Scott (PBC) – Chisora wins by a controversial stoppage

Dereck Chisora's controversial sixth-round knockout of Malik Scott will stand (espn.com)

MAR 2014: Wilder (PBC) v Scott (PBC) is a final eliminator for WBC title – Scott takes a dive. Wilder become mandatory.

Deontay Wilder vs. Malik Scott to be a WBC heavyweight eliminator bout on 3/15 ⋆ Boxing News 24

APR 2014: Stiverne (Don King) v Arreola (Dan Goosen) AGAIN, this time for the vacant WBC title – Stiverne wins. Stiverne becomes the new WBC champion.

Bermane Stiverne drops Chris Arreola, wins heavyweight world title (espn.com)

MAY 2014: WBC president says Stiverne (Don King) cannot fight W. Klitschko for undisputed. His first defence must be against mandatory opponent Deontay Wilder (PBC). No voluntaries for Stiverne…

WBC president says Bermane Stiverne has to face Deontay Wilder before Wladimir Klitschko - Bad Left Hook

JAN 2015: Stiverne (Don King) loses his title to Wilder (PBC) – Wilder was the mandatory, and this is Stiverne’s first defence. Wilder becomes the new WBC champion.

Deontay Wilder dominates Bermane Stiverne, wins WBC heavyweight title ⋆ Boxing News 24

JAN 2015: Shelly Finkel declares that Wilder (PBC) will not be fighting Klitschko for undisputed.

Wilder Will Not Be Rushed To Klitschko, Says Finkel - Boxing News (*******.com)

…

JAN 2016: Melodonium added to the WADA banned list of drugs.

Blood-Flow Drug Meldonium Added To WADA's Banned Substances List (swimswam.com)

MAY 2016: Wilder (PBC) v Povetkin falls through with days to go due to Povetkin testing positive for traces of Melodonium.

Meldonium: Boxer Alexander Povetkin tests positive for banned substance - BBC Sport

Deontay Wilder wins civil case against Alexander Povetkin - The Ring (ringtv.com)

Povetkin's Promoter Claims $4.3 Million Court Win Over Wilder - Boxing News (*******.com)

JULY 2016: Arreola (TGB Promotions) steps in to fight Wilder (PBC) – Wilder wins

Deontay Wilder to make heavyweight defense against Chris Arreola (espn.com)

DEC 2016: Stiverne (Don King) and Povetkin are due to fight for Interim Title (+ the chance to become Wilder’s first mandatory). First Stiverne and then Povetkin fail drug tests.

Stiverne fails drug test but fight with Povetkin still on - The Ring (ringtv.com)

Povetkin's Promoter Disputes Positive Finding on B-Sample - Boxing News (*******.com)

DEC 2016: Whyte v Chisora 1 is an eliminator for the WBC title. – Whyte wins

Dillian Whyte defeats Dereck Chisora in thrilling heavyweight contest - BBC Sport

DEC 2016: Joshua v Molina – Joshua wins, Molina fails a UKAD drug test, UKAD investigation begins. ***remember this for later

US boxer Eric Molina banned for two-years after failing post-fight drugs test after Anthony Joshua knockout (thesun.co.uk)

 

So… ENTERING 2017

We have Whyte on track to challenge for the WBC title having won an eliminator. Wilder (PBC) hasn’t faced a mandatory in his first two years as Champion. Povetkin has failed a drug test. Stiverne (Don King) has failed a drug test. Molina has failed a UKAD drug test, but the information is yet to be published.

JAN 2017: Wilder (PBC) opponent Andrzej Wawrzyk fails a VADA test and is replaced by Washington (TGB Promotions).

FEBRUARY 2017: WBC install Stiverne as Wilder’s mandatory challenger, ignoring his failed drug test, and not requiring him to fight a final eliminator. Note Whyte has just won a title eliminator two months earlier.

WBC orders Wilder-Stiverne II - Bad Left Hook

JULY 2017: Wilder (PBC) is in talks to make his 6th consecutive voluntary defence against Luis Ortiz a highly regarded contender. Fans are genuinely excited.


AUGUST 2017: Stiverne (WBC#1), the WBC interim belt holder and mandatory challenger, announces that he will make an interim title defence against Breazeale (WBC #11) on the undercard of Wilder v Ortiz.

NOTE: Breazeale (WBC#11) was drafted in as a guy for Stiverne to beat in a tune-up fight after Stiverne was forced to step aside for Luis Ortiz by the WBC. Remember Whyte (WBC#4) had already won his title eliminator 8 months earlier.



SEPTEMBER 2017: Wilder (PBC) signs to fight Luis Ortiz in his 6th consecutive voluntary defence against. Fans are genuinely excited.


SEPTEMBER 2017: Luis Ortiz fails a drug test…

Deontay Wilder still wants to fight Luis Ortiz, ruling coming soon (standingeightcount.com)

Stiverne (Don King), who has not fought in 2 years, will now be elevated to be Wilder’s mandatory challenger.

OCT 2017: UKAD provisionally suspends Eric Molina for failing his post-fight test against Joshua, but the ruling is not released to the media as yet.

US boxer Eric Molina banned for two-years after failing post-fight drugs test after Anthony Joshua knockout (thesun.co.uk)

OCTOBER 2017: Instead of Breazeale (PBC) fighting Whyte on the undercard, the WBC allows Breazeale to choose his opponent for his title eliminator. Breazeale chooses Eric Molina (PBC)! The same Eric Molina (PBC) who is now serving a UKAD ban. *** remember this, it will be important later.

Heavyweights Dominic Breazeale, Eric Molina to fight on Brooklyn undercard (espn.com)

OCT 2017: Molina’s UKAD ban begins

US boxer Eric Molina banned for two-years after failing post-fight drugs test after Anthony Joshua knockout (thesun.co.uk)

NOV 2017: Wilder (PBC) v Stiverne (Don King), in Wilder’s first mandatory defence. 1st round KO of the morbidly obese Stiverne, who throws 4 punches.

Deontay Wilder defeats Bermane Stiverne in first-round knockout (espn.com)


I'll stop there, but
the corruption involving WBC/PBC/Team Wilder went on and on and on...
It's ridiculous to absolve those parties and pretend this is all on Whyte

 

Here I’ll help you: the controversial part is you being fully biased towards Wilder and failing to acknowledge that Whyte also has devastating KO power and has floored a heavyweight champion who ain’t ever been floored in hundreds of fights.

 

He also was brutally knocked out by a shot to pieces Povetkin. a result which caused you to avoid posting on this handle for over a year.

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THERE ARE FOUR BELTS.

The WBC isn't the only game in town.

* Eric Molina got two title shots and has fought for ALL the belts.
* Dominic Breazeale got two title shots and has fought for ALL the belts
* Alexander Povetkin got two title shots ... failed his PED test for the WBC belt then fought for the other three belts.
* Kubrat Pulev got three title shots (against Wlad, against Joshua - but Pulev backed out, and Joshua again) for three belts.
* Andy Ruiz got two title shots - at Parker for the WBO and Joshua for three belts.
* Deontay Wilder got two WBC title shots.
* Tyson Fury got THREE title shots (Wlad, Wilder, Wilder) and has fought for all the belts.
* Anthony Joshua is about to get his FIFTH title shot (Martin, Parker, Wlad, Ruiz, Usyk).
* And an assortment of guys who were late subs got title shots at all the belts.

Dillian Whyte has never received ANY title shot to compete for ANY of the four belts because no one can seem to work with Dillian Whyte.

That's on Dillian Whyte.

None of the other three orgs rate Whyte. None of the other three orgs want anything to do with Whyte. Whyte was offered a shot at their belts, he declined.

The WBC is done with all his nonsense.

If the WBC is so corrupt, then why didn't Whyte fight for another org's? title?

If Deontay Wilder was blocking Whyte from getting a title shot, why didn't Whyte go after one of the three belts Wilder didn't have?

The arguments have run out.

If Whyte fights Fury, fine. I'll happily watch it. If Whyte doesn't, fine.

But this nonsensical "it's Wilder's fault" garbage needs to stop, already.

Wilder didn't block Whyte from a WBC title fight. Wilder didn't block Whyte from a WBO title fight. Wilder didn't block Whyte from an IBF title fight. Wilder didn't block Whyte from a WBA title fight. Wilder isn't the champ anymore. Wilder hasn't had a belt in almost two years.

This is all on Dillian Whyte.

MULTIPLE fighters from all over the world have gotten MULTIPLE title shots at all FOUR of the belts over the years because they are accomodating and easy to work with.

Whyte never got a title shot at ANY of the belts because of DILLIAN WHYTE.

 

But what’s your point? It’s boxing.

You should know these things happen babes. Newsflash.

 

There are four belts. Whyte's promoter has controlled three of the four belts for nearly four years.

What stopped Whyte - at any point in the last four or five years - from working with the WBA/WBO/IBF ... Matchroom/Hearn ... and Joshua, Ruiz, Usyk from getting title shots at those three belts?

What stopped him?

What's stopping Whyte from working with the WBA/WBO/IBF ... their mandatories ... HEARN/MATCHROOM ... Usyk/Joshua now?

Did Wilder change Whyte's phone plan so he can't make a call?

 

So your non-argument is, yes maybe the The WBC were corrupt and openly supporting Wilder. BUT that just means Whyte was stupid to even try. Therefore Whyte's fault.

Genius level come back to the facts I presented to you.

Smh

You also left out the bit where Whyte was actually WBO#1, but they elevated Usyk ahead of him as mandatory. But that kind of demolishes your objections of why didn't he go a different direction...

You'll excuse me if I don't argue over irrelevancies with you.
I'm out.

 

Hey, nobody ever accused Whyte of being overburdened with intelligence.

What a predicament for him to be in, whereby he might very well be mandated by the WBC to fight a final eliminator against the guy he tried to duck out of fighting, citing an "injury".

I love it.

 

The main reason is the considerable effort and money invested in pursuing the WBC belt in a bid to return to Joshua who until recently held the other belts... in order to gain leverage at the negotiating table for purse splits.

That simple really. I’m sure you have underestimated how much it has cost Whyte from a monetary perspective, I invite you to ponder on the actual costs.

 

Yeah just like no one accused you of being overburdened with success!

Just another tom, dick, harry passing through life under the radar.

 

There are three belts. You have to pay sanctioning fees at all of them. Fight another org's mandatory.

He's got arguably the most powerful promoter in the sport who has promotional rights to three of the four belts.

Why go after the one belt where your promoter has no influence?

Never made any sense. Still doesn't. Neither did all the insults Whyte has hurled at the WBC over the years. Or all the suits he's filed.

It would be like an employer interviewing a bunch of candidates for a job, and them telling you you're the most qualified, and then you go on social media, tell everyone how corrupt the company is, how they better hire you or you're going to sue, they ask you to come in for another interview, you say no because you're already the most qualified, and they'll be hearing from your lawyer if they don't make you an offer. And then people saying, "If they're so corrupt, why don't you just go work somewhere else?" And you say, well, I've already paid my lawyers. And other employers take note and go, "Let's steer clear of this guy."

What Whyte has done over the years is nonsensical.

What was the point of signing with Hearn if you weren't going to fight for the titles held by the fighters Hearn controlled?

Why has he spent years alienating the only org that's really ever paid him any attention at all?