WBC strikes again Haney is still the champion

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yet throughout the entire fight we heard how if Haney loses the title would be vacated. :facepalm:

    Whether or not you think Haney should have lost the title, it's embarrassing for DAZN to be that clueless about what would happen to the title in the event that Haney lost. How the F can the broadcaster be that clueless about the title situation. DAZN is a sad excuse for a promotional outfit.
     
  2. Ronin Pham

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    Who holds the other belt in that division? Teo, Matias, Devin, and ? Eddie Hearn said the title was to be vacated before the tweet by Suleman came out.
     
  3. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    This doesn't bother me at all. It wasn’t a tittle fight. If the belt makes Haney happy more power to him.
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I understand the logic of the match becoming a non-title fight when the challenger comes over weight. Now if it was the Champion who didn't make weight, then he would be stripped of the title win lose or draw.

    So this begs the question, what caused everyone going into the match to think that Haney could lose the title?

    What are some examples of a challenger coming in over, winning, and causing the title to become vacant?

    I admit that when I first heard DAZN say that Haney could lose the title if he loses, I thought to myself, well wait a second, is that really fair to Devin? He's not fighting a Light Welterweight, why should he lose his Light Welterweight Title if he loses? On the other hand, wouldn't it still be counted as a title defense if he won or drew? After all the bout was sanctioned at 140.
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right but the problem was that everyone watching (thanks to DAZN) was under the impression that it was a title fight. If the match was sanctioned as a title fight, then at the very least, the WBC should have made it abundantly clear that this was no longer a title fight when Ryan failed to make weight. Which apprently they didn't, or at least no one told DAZN. :facepalm:
     
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  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And DAZN just ran with that? I'm sorry but this is pathetic. The information was out there, but no one told DAZN's commentary team? What kind of echo chamber does this network exist in? Dysfunctional as all hell!!
     
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  9. Ronin Pham

    Ronin Pham Member Full Member

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    Boxing should limit clinches per round. It's making fights look worse.
     
  10. Ronin Pham

    Ronin Pham Member Full Member

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    damn, i forgot that he was at 140 when he beat rolly. thanks for the reminder.
     
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  11. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    It´s against the rules. The refs simply don´t care, not do the commissions. You are not allowed to wrap both arms around the opponent as if you are hugging them.
    It´s a no, no and has ruined modern boxing.
     
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know a lot of people see clinches as anti-action, and they are, but they are a fundamental part of the sport and should continue to be allowed. After all, one of the main purposes of a referee is to break up clinches.
     
  13. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't feel like much of a champion after that thrashing.
     
  14. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Never mention Haney deserves to lose the title. It was a non tittle fight so he should retain it. Only the champ can lose title for failing to make weight. Which Haney easily made. Once Garcia could not make weight and they agreed to the fight anyway at 143 , it became a non title and hence he could not lose his belt.

    But the crew not knowing the rule is disappointing.

    I dont think WBC reiterating that he still keeps the belt made the defeat any better for Haney.
     
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  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with you. I took issue with the claim by DAZN that Haney would lose his title if he lost. I said, wait a minute, how can he lose his LWW title since he's not fighting a LWW? And not only was DAZN poor stewards of the sport for saying throughout the fight that he would lose his title if he lost, but look how some fans have reacted to that. As a result of DAZN's poor journalism, and broadcasting a false reality to the world, as the world was watching, fans have been put under a false impression and now have acted like it's scandal or corruption that the title isn't vacant lol. Fans are literally acting like the WBC is protecting Hanry illegitimately for letting him keeping his title.

    Look at the first couple of posts in this topic and how many fans agreed with that take, that it should have been vacant. All based presumably on what DAZN said.

    On the other hand, I can understand how fans were misled since the title was sanctioned at LWW, and that it was to be a title defense. But you have some fans now acting like this is some kind of scandal that Haney was allowed to keep his title. Or he's being protected by the WBC.

    This should be a watershed moment. To understand which side is right, we need to study history and see if there were situations in the past of a challenger coming over, winning, and the title being vacated as a result, in either WBC sanctioned bouts or other organizations.
     
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