None of the belts belonged to Haney in the first place because the corruption which saved him from a certain KO loss last night, even more KDs, and multiple point deductions if not a DQ loss for an insane amount of holding was in full display the night he clearly lost them all in his own backyard to a tiny old past prime blown up 126 pounder he held an obscene size advantage over. The fact he had a home ref and three home judges for a world title fight, an undisputed one at that, which is almost the norm over in the US but literally never happens anywhere else in the world for world title fights between a home fighter and a foreigner shows you how rigged the deck is for US fighters fighting at home. But when he travelled to Australia to fight Kambosos x 2 all the officials for both fights came from neutral countries You think it's merely an accident that the refs for Hitchins vs Lemos and Haney vs Garcia allowed Hitchins and Haney to hold like octopuses from first bell to last which saved them from KO losses and multiple more KDs ad allowed them to survive or win rounds they shouldn't have? Every single person watching those fights could see how insane the holding was and so many of us were calling it out from the early rounds but the two guys with the best seat and view in the house couldn't see it? Not even a hard warning for holding, let alone points deducted. That's called CORRUPTION not incompetence.
If the title had have been vacant it would have remained vacant but Haney is the champion and Garcia didn't make weight. So it was a non title fight.
Devon brought a 140lb title to the fight, but the fight was contested at 143.5. He should not lose his belt... ... But he also should not want it, as it has become hollow...if not meaningless. Even if he rematches Garcia, it won't be at 140. He should just vacate and try to get his hands on another strap, honestly.
Exactly. I was astonished when I read that the title was vacated. I thought that the champion retained the title. What WBC is saying is exactly what I thought that it was going to happen. Ryan missed the weight, the belts were not on the line, so the champion remains the same no matter the result of the fight. It is different when the one missing the weight is the champion and not the challenger, ofc.
Yeah the public were misinformed and i think it's caused quite a bit of angst as seen in here. Haney obviously knew it was not on the line.
We're lucky we even got a fight as Haney didn't even have an obligation to fight after Garcia missed weight.
Nothing wrong with this. Haney hasn’t lost a fight against a fighter at the weight at which he holds the belt, so he retains the title. When Bob Foster lost to Muhammad Ali he didn’t lose his Light Heavyweight title, because he wasn’t fighting against a Light Heavyweight.
Thats exactly what i thought too, if Garcia didnt make the weight anyways. Like the cancelled Spinks-Muhammad 2 fiasco in 1983.
I thought it was strange that Haney was being forced to vacate a title if his opponent was the one that missed weight. Anyway, there's plenty of precedence for titleholders keeping their belts after suffering losses in fights above the weight. Most recent example I can think of is Jojo Diaz missing weight, before defeating then-WBA featherweight champ Jesus Rojas in what had become a non title match. Haney retains his belt and rightfully so. He loses some standing in terms of lustre and in a pfp sense, but the strap should stay in his possession until he relinquishes it or loses it to someone who can actually make the 140lb weight.
WBC are already probably planning how they can gift Haney a WBC title at Welterweight as easily as possible.
Honestly I can't say im surprised or displeased. it wasn't really a junior welterweight fight and this has happened before with Rey Vargas Vs o'shaquie foster and Julio Cesar Martinez Vs Roman Gonzalez. it has precedent
OK but the question is, what examples are there of a title being vacated after a challenger misses weight then beats the Champion? Or has that never happened before, because many fans seem to be under the impression that if the Champion is defeated, even against a challenger who didn't make weight, in a match that has already been established as a title fight, it remains a title fight and the title would become vacant. There have been claims by some that this is a routine procedure if the challenger misses weight in a contracted title fight, the Champion could still choose defend his title. Is this a situation where after Garcia missed weight, the WBC gave Haney the option of defend the title anyway or to not defend the title and make it a non-title fight? Did the WBC handle this any differently than the WBA, IBF or WBO has in the past in a situation such as this?
DAZN was lying through their teeth to promote the fight. This wasn't a real dispute now that the fight is over it doesn't matter.