WBC to Pavlik: Pay what you owe

Rico Spadafora · Nov 6, 2008

Max Molyneux said:

Why does he owe them for the Hopkins fight?
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if they charged him a sanctioning fee for that fight I would drop the belt ASAP. That is pathetic and just a way to get money it was not even a WBC fight for christ sakes!

That is criminal.

Pavlik is THE Middleweight champion everyone knows that he might as well drop both the WBC and WBO he does not need them.

Decebal · Nov 6, 2008

Max Molyneux said:

Why does he owe them for the Hopkins fight?
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He doesn't. That wasn't a title fight. He owes them for the title fights sanctioned by them.

cityofgod · Nov 6, 2008

Sulaimans son tried to take Pavlik's winning shorts after he beat Taylor by KO.

They intimated that if he didnt hand them over, WBC life would not run as smoothly for him.

He reluctantly handed them over and then the athletic commission found out and made his son return them the next day and claimed that there 'must have been a misunderstanding'.

I bet Kelly screws them and pays nothing

mexican legend · Nov 6, 2008

I want to see an unification with Arthur so I hope he pays up.

unclepaulie · Nov 6, 2008

cityofgod said:

Sulaimans son tried to take Pavlik's winning shorts after he beat Taylor by KO.

They intimated that if he didnt hand them over, WBC life would not run as smoothly for him.

He reluctantly handed them over and then the athletic commission found out and made his son return them the next day and claimed that there 'must have been a misunderstanding'.

I bet Kelly screws them and pays nothing
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source?

Bodysnatcher · Nov 6, 2008

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Decebal · Nov 6, 2008

Bodysnatcher said:

I read a story that Sulamain's son or some **** tried to steal Kelly's shorts right after the Taylor 1 victory. No ****. It was in a Thomas Hauser piece.

Sulamain's son said `I am honored by this gift`, where as Pavlik said `who the **** stole my shorts out the dressing room?`
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:-( :verysad :-( :verysad :-( What a shameful thing...

Bodysnatcher · Nov 6, 2008

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marauder1999 · Nov 6, 2008

Cut the guy some slack--Remember when he forgot his first big check and left it in the motel room--he probably just forgot about paying his dues.

unclepaulie · Nov 6, 2008

Bodysnatcher said:

"After referee Steve Smoger gave Kelly Pavlik his instructions in the dressing room prior to Taylor-Pavlik, Mauricio Sulaiman came into the room. Mauricio is the son of WBC president Jose Sulaiman. In recent years, he has assumed an increasingly active role within the sanctioning body. He is now the WBC’s executive secretary and is in charge of the organization’s executive office in Mexico City.

In the dressing room, Mauricio approached veteran cornerman Miguel Diaz and told him, “If Kelly wins, I would like his trunks to present as a gift to my father.” Diaz relayed the request to Mike Pavlik, who responded, “No way.”

After the fight, Mauricio returned to the dressing room and renewed his request.

“Oh, man,” Kelly said. “These are my trunks. Next fight, maybe; but not this one. I just won the championship in these trunks. My blood is on them.”

More people were drawn into the conversation. One-on-ones followed. Some words were exchanged regarding the discretionary powers of WBC officials and their ability to make things easy or hard on WBC champions. Mauricio Sulaiman left Boardwalk Hall with Kelly Pavlik’s bloodstained trunks. In the wee small hours of Sunday morning, he was confronted regarding the matter and the trunks were returned.

“It was a misunderstanding,” Mauricio told this writer. “I was led to believe that Kelly wanted the trunks to be presented as a gift to my father because of his respect for my father and the WBC. When it was brought to my attention that Kelly wished to have the trunks back, I arranged quickly to return them.”

Federal law states, “No officer or employee of a sanctioning organization may receive any compensation, gift, or benefit, directly or indirectly, from a boxer [other than a sanctioning fee].” Violation of this law is a crime punishable by up to one year in prison and a fine of $20,000.

When a powerful WBC official makes a request such as the one Sulaiman made of Pavlik, there’s an inherent coercive factor at work. That’s why there’s a law against it.

Craig Hamilton (the foremost boxing memorabilia dealer in the United States) estimates that Pavlik’s trunks from his championship-winning fight could be worth as much as $25,000. The WBC received a substantial sanctioning fee for Taylor-Pavlik. That should suffice for everyone’s purposes.

This isn’t the first time that Mauricio Sulaiman has made a request of this nature. One hopes it’s the last."

http://www.secondsout.com/Columns/index.cfm?ccs=208&cs=22919
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Thanks, didn't read that at the time. Wish I could say I'm surprised, but nothing that any Sulaiman/WBC official could do would surprise me, apart from being honest and fair.

Decebal · Nov 6, 2008

Bodysnatcher said:

"After referee Steve Smoger gave Kelly Pavlik his instructions in the dressing room prior to Taylor-Pavlik, Mauricio Sulaiman came into the room. Mauricio is the son of WBC president Jose Sulaiman. In recent years, he has assumed an increasingly active role within the sanctioning body. He is now the WBCs executive secretary and is in charge of the organizations executive office in Mexico City.

In the dressing room, Mauricio approached veteran cornerman Miguel Diaz and told him, If Kelly wins, I would like his trunks to present as a gift to my father. Diaz relayed the request to Mike Pavlik, who responded, No way.

After the fight, Mauricio returned to the dressing room and renewed his request.

Oh, man, Kelly said. These are my trunks. Next fight, maybe; but not this one. I just won the championship in these trunks. My blood is on them.

More people were drawn into the conversation. One-on-ones followed. Some words were exchanged regarding the discretionary powers of WBC officials and their ability to make things easy or hard on WBC champions. Mauricio Sulaiman left Boardwalk Hall with Kelly Pavliks bloodstained trunks. In the wee small hours of Sunday morning, he was confronted regarding the matter and the trunks were returned.

It was a misunderstanding, Mauricio told this writer. I was led to believe that Kelly wanted the trunks to be presented as a gift to my father because of his respect for my father and the WBC. When it was brought to my attention that Kelly wished to have the trunks back, I arranged quickly to return them.

Federal law states, No officer or employee of a sanctioning organization may receive any compensation, gift, or benefit, directly or indirectly, from a boxer [other than a sanctioning fee]. Violation of this law is a crime punishable by up to one year in prison and a fine of $20,000.

When a powerful WBC official makes a request such as the one Sulaiman made of Pavlik, theres an inherent coercive factor at work. Thats why theres a law against it.

Craig Hamilton (the foremost boxing memorabilia dealer in the United States) estimates that Pavliks trunks from his championship-winning fight could be worth as much as $25,000. The WBC received a substantial sanctioning fee for Taylor-Pavlik. That should suffice for everyones purposes.

This isnt the first time that Mauricio Sulaiman has made a request of this nature. One hopes its the last."

http://www.secondsout.com/Columns/index.cfm?ccs=208&cs=22919
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That could explain why Kelly wants to have nothing to do with them and why he refuses to pay the dues...

brownbomber · Nov 6, 2008

**** the WBC i wouldn't pay that ****. That organization is a racket and they probably are charging Pavlik a fee for the Hopkins fight. Everyone knows he is the middelweight champ. Boxers have short careers and have to give up way too much of their earnings.

unclepaulie · Nov 6, 2008

Decebal said:

That could explain why Kelly wants to have nothing to do with them and why he refuses to pay the dues...
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No ****. I would have publicized the hell out of that and thrown their belt in the trash Riddick-style for the world to see.

Bodysnatcher · Nov 6, 2008

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