WBC to suspend Povetkin for 2 years Povetkin B sample Positive

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How much money is his promoter willing to pour down a hole with no possible payoff?

    Paying Povetkin and then paying an opponent high dollars with no chance that he'll ever cash in and win a title isn't a smart business proposition.
     
  2. Flamazide

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    I'm not, but I've looked into what scientists have said about this. Other guys have tested positive from food though, or at least that was their story. It isn't that uncommon. Based on the evidence we have from this case though it looks like that is exactly what happened with Povetkin. The only other possible option is that he used a masking agent to flush out his system, but if he did that they would have found traces of that so it's unlikely.

    As far as why other people don't positive, honestly I'm thinking that if it is a low amount dosage they don't even report it. I know VADA has one of the few labs that can even pick up something that small. Most places can't pick up anything this small.
     
  3. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    It is highly unlikely that he is flushing the meldonium out of his system lol there is no need to. You don't take meldonium to get an edge over your competition. It doesn't give you any benefits like that. It was also previously allowed and then subsequently banned and will likely be allowed again next year, but that's another conversation entirely. Basically, flushing this out of your system is not allowed in the first place. You're breaking WADA protocol by using an IV in the first place which is an automatic ban. Because meldonium is fairly new there is concrete evidence for how how long it takes to get out of your system entirely and how much trace evidence there would be so it's safer for you to not even try to get rid of it in the first place.
     
  4. Rock0052

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    If they stage the events profitably, that's all the payoff necessary to continue running them.

    If they can't, they'll lower the quality (and price) of opposition. If they still can't run them at a profit with him included, then they'll run their few stacked cards a year without him.
     
  5. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    They all prize fight. His legacy is tarnished and he won't ever fight for a world title again.
     
  6. Flamazide

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    No, it is preventative. A lot of Russians use this, which is actually why it was banned (Look up the statement made on Meldonium); the idea is that taking this lowers your risk of heart failure later in life which as an athlete you have a heightened risk of. It's basically like Asprin if asprin didn't have harmful effects and wasn't a pain reliever. It's an over the counter drug there that you're probably encouraged to take by physicians by the last part is just an assumption on my part, but I'm basing that on the vast amount of Russians that use the drug. Ostarine is also over the counter as well, but it does actually give you benefits and has been banned for about 8 years.
     
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  7. groot

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    Must be the godzilla burgers
     
  8. Saintpat

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    There is every reason to flush a banned substance from the body if you're being tested.

    As evidenced by the fact that he failed the test and the fight was called off. Had he flushed/masked it better, as he almost certainly did in the other tests, he'd have gotten away with it.
     
  9. Rock0052

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    Yeah. Legacies don't buy the borscht, though.

    Will he continue? If it makes rubles, it makes sense.
     
  10. Flamazide

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    If he flushed it out of his system he would have been caught for using a masking agent. Also apparently there aren't even masking agents for meldonium and ostarine, but I'm not familiar with how those things work exactly. I was under the impression that saline clears everything out and messes up your sample so you can't get a read, but apparently that isn't the case. Again though I'm not sure how that part works at all. I do know that he would have been caught for using a masking agent though and that those are banned under WADA protocol and it would have had a worse result than using meldonium. An analogy would be like, killing someone and leaving evidence to cover up theft.
     
  11. groot

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    I dont want that chump banned his
    Best punshement would be ktfo so his groupe new kids on the block fans can go home to their Igloos and cry.
     
  12. Steve_Fox

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    he took peds to fight stiverne and wilder , roidpedkin is a disgrace
     
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  13. northpaw

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    True, but I don't think this will stop him from fighting in Russia. It's still
    prize fighting and the real prize is income. I'm sure he'll find many guys
    willing to fight him.
     
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  14. Liquid Fire

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    Career over. Good fighter tainted by peds..

    All on em.
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    I think they should stop all this drugs testing nonsense.
    Just let them fight.
    It's a shame boxing has descended into a silly soap opera about performance enhancing drugs.
    20 and 30 years ago fighters were on performance enhancing drugs and no one really gave a ****.
    Now all these fans and fighters are bitching about it.
     
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