WBO President: "If a fight is within the limit, it has to be for the title"

THat is what I was getting at, how can an organization force a champ to put his title on the line in a non-mandatory bout, the answer is they can not, Cotto will have legal grounds to sue if they try to force his title on the line.

 

We already have a lot threads regarding this. It's getting old and yet some are still arguing about that 147 lbs limit.

Again if people wants to be technical about it . . . then same day weigh in is the answer. Cotto weigning at 158 to 160 at fight night means he is no longer a legititmate welter. :deal

 

just because the WBO pres says something doesn't make it truth or even right.

Cotto, do yourself and everyone a favor. Dump that belt and have Pacquiao fight Michael Jennings for that useless strap.

Pacquiao is not a man of his word. He'll make a great politician though. they change their minds every 2 minutes.

 

Yeah truth or even right . . . a lot of examples of previous fights that happen in catch weights have been posted and you still questioning if it is right? :rofl

Just answer this . . . is Cotto weighing in at fight night at 160 still a welter limit?

You are ignoring logical arguements that has been posted . . . because you simply hate Pacquiao. :yep

 

The issue I have here, is IF Pac Man wins he will add a welterweight strap to his CV without being in a 147lb championship fight. Roach will not let Cotto go to 147, because he thinks that 2 pounds will make the difference and give Cotto too big an advantage. Simple answer, don't fight for the belt, if you are limiting Cotto by fighting at 145, then you cannot take his 147 strap.

 

I know...I lost this useless argument. Its a moot point since Cotto won't weigh 145 come fight night.

Cotto could and should weigh anything he wants on fightnight.

I can't hate Pacquiao. I just hate the people that whisper in his ear. such is life.

 

you are right. fighters have been fighting non title fights within the division throughout the history of the game.

but those fights were 10 rounders. once this fight was signed at the championship distance of 12 rounds, the wbo has every right to order the title be on the line.

 

SECTION 15. NONCHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS or NON- WBO CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS

a) Nothing in these Rules is intended to prohibit a World Champion from engaging in non-WBO Championship fights, even if the non-championship fight is in a weight category different from that in which the Champion is the WBO Titleholder. The outcome of any non-title fight shall not affect the recognition of the World Championship by the Organization, provided, however, if a WBO Champions loses a match subject to this Paragraph, the WBO the World Championship Committee may order the WBO Champion to conduct a Mandatory Contest within 120 days of losing the match.

(b) A WBO champions shall not participate in a non-championship fight that is not a WBO Championship without the prior authorization of the WBO World Championship Committee. This authorization shall be subject to such conditions as the WBO World Championship Committee determines. In addition, this authorization will be granted only on the condition that the WBO Champion pay a fee to the WBO that is the equivalent of the amount that he WBO Champion would have paid to the WBO if the nonchampionship fight were conducted as a WBO Championship fight.

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Looking at the bylaws, it seems to me that the WBO can not force Cotto to put his title on the line against Manny. If he does fight Manny the only thing they are bound to do is take away the title for not paying fees.

I don't see anything in there rules stating that every fight must be for the title.

 

I get what you're saying anything over 140 and below 147 is welterweight. My point is that Roach is limiting Cotto to 145. The lightest Cotto has weighed in at welterweight has been 146, and therefore may he not be able maximise his performance at 145. In light of this, should a belt, who's upper limit should be 147 (regardless of whether Cotto agreed to fight at 145) be at stake?

I know there is nothing to bar a catchweight belt fight, but I think it would be unrepresentative if Pac won the welterweight belt.

 

Can't you recognize the man with the breast implanT? LOL. Look at his lips, it's ready to SUCK you whole. :hat

 

The bolded part of your post really is irrelevant, getting approval for the fight does not necessitate that the fight must be for the title. The way I interpret the ruling is that if Cotto wants to fight Manny in a non-title fight he has to get WBO permission, if they grant it, they can place in certain criteria and Cotto has to pay fees. This does not allow them to make every fight a title fight though. Do you understand what I'm saying? Subsection B seems to only be directed towards NON-TITLE fights.