WBO President: "If a fight is within the limit, it has to be for the title"

The COTTO/CLOTTEY fight shouldn't have a been a title fight because COTTO only weighed 146, which is 1 puound short of 147. HOw come nobody complained? :hat

 

There is nothing in anyone's rulebook that say's a fighter has to defend his title everytime within his weight division. If Shane was fighting Lovemore N'Dou, would it be a title fight? Hell no. Pac is not even a WW contender.

 

Actually he's not suppose to be entitled to that Welter weight title because he weighs between 154-160 on fight night, He should be a MIDDLEWEIGHT! Something really needs to be done regarding weights of fighters, because the supposed to be DIVISION LIMITS aren't being followed. 141-147 should be the weight come fight night! Anything above that, is disqualification! :hat

 

reg the confusion is in the language. they refer to non championship fights not non title. when they say championship, they refer to 12 round fights. that is fights slated at the championship distance.

if they had signed this fight for 10 rounds, or 148, the wbo would have had no say in the matter.

 

i hate all these stupid threads... seriously, over a zillion threads and a bazillion posts and people are still arguing about this?

 

I am not an expert on this, but these are my 2 Cents.

The weight (fighting within the limit) is not the main reason why this fight is going to be a title fight..... the main reason is because Cotto did not ask the WBO for the approval of his fight, prior to signing his contract with Pac....

Even though the fight was originaly agreed as a non title fight, the WBO is taking advantage of the fact that (I thik this is what happend) Cotto made the mistake of signing a contract before getting the approval.... obviously the WBO wants this fight to be a title fight because it is convenient for them and Cotto cannot get out of the fight because of the contract.......

If Cotto had not sign any contract (yet) then, he could go 'now' and ask the WBO for its approval, so he could fight a non title fight, of course he would have to pay the fees accordingly.....

After getting the approval he would have signed the contract and then his title woudn't be on the line.... and if the WBO woudn't have approved his non title fight then Cotto would probably have vacated his title and then sign the contract with Pac..... of course if Pac's intentions was to fight a non-title fight....

If Cotto doesn't fight Pac, then he would be sued by Pac, and if he fights then the WBO says 'the title will be on the line"......

The only option for Cotto to fight without the title on the line would be if he vacates the title before he fights Pac.....

My opinions is that Cotto was going to put the title on the line but he wanted to negotiate and get more money..... probably at the end he got some but no what he intended......

The big question is: Why don't they (WBO) approve (now) the fight as a non-title fight????? Do you guys really believe that it is only because is within the limit????? I DON'T

 

I guess this is where we disagree, my reading of the rules lead me to understand that if the WBO denies permission for the bout and the WBO titleholder fights anyway without paying his fees he would be breaking one of the WBO bylaws, which states that the title will be stripped from said titleholder. So I understand what you are saying, I think we just have different takes on the consequences of what happens if Cotto goes against the WBO's wishes.

I really don't understand the WBO's angle. It makes no sense to me that they would make Manny #1 contender over Clottey in their WW rankings, also if Manny wins he is just going to vacate the belt, so they still aren't going to get any more money except from Clottey if he fights for the vacant title. Seems to me they would get more money just keeping it with Cotto, atleast that way they still get their money for the Manny fight, and money from a mandatory Cotto fight, and any fight after that, assuming Clottey fights Shane instead of Cotto.

 

The reason why they want this fight to be a title fight is because they are thinking in 'GLORY'...... 'REPUTATION'.....etc, etc, if Pac wins the fight.... at this point they don't care if Pac vacates the title after....

If Cotto would be fighting 'John Smith' instead.... then this fight would have never been for the title.... Cotto would get the approval right away.....

EDIT:

Regarding Pac being ranked #1..... well, boxing is like that, isn't it.... the ABC organizations don't give a ****.... it is all about money..... money moves people in mysterious ways.... and it won't be the last time......

 

bob's paying. enough already

 

You know nothing about boxing as I can tell. Most of boxers would go up a lot of weight classes if that were the case...

 

Fair enough.